Thursday, June 16, 2011

Diversity Thursday

Time to put your manhour cost analysis hats on folks.

There are two ways to look at this:
1. The CNO wants some data to help use up some white space on his end-of-tour award.
2. At last, someone is starting to ask hard questions about what the CNO's cultural-Marxism fetish is costing a Navy at war.

Either way - bask in the insanity and cost of institutional discrimination writ large.

I'm in a good mood - last names redacted to protect the guilty - but the numbers kept in so you get a feel for it. My spies tell me that all operations stopped at their UIC when this hot-tasker came down. What a 96-hr reda55. Sing it with me.

-----Original Message-----
From: [REDACTED]
Sent: Friday, June 10 [REDACTED]
To: [REDACTED]
Cc: [REDACTED]
Subject: FW: ***URGENT*** - DATA CALL FOR CNO DIVERSITY DISCUSSION

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I am sorry for the short notice tasker, but we received this tasker from CNO's office late yesterday afternoon and it is due by COB today for a meeting the CNO has early next week and they need the data from every Command in our Domain. Please look at the tasker and fill out the information on the first page to the best of your ability, there are instructions for how to fill out the data on the worksheet itself. There is not enough time to come back through the TYCOM with all of your inputs so please respond directly to LCDR [REDACTED]from the OPNAV staff (located in the cc line) and cc me with your responses. I appreciate your immediate assistance in this matter and I am very sorry for the short suspense. Have a great day. V/R

[REDACTED],
Please forward this tasker to all of our Commands that are not on the NMCI network. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: [REDACTED], William LCDR OPNAV, N00Z
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 19:15
To:
[REDACTED], Lori L CDR CNP N134; [REDACTED], Davede; [REDACTED], Daniel L CIV Code 61; [REDACTED], Milly N COMNECC, N101; [REDACTED], Aaron U CIV, BUPERS 31; [REDACTED], Christopher C CDR OPNAV, N2/N6C111; [REDACTED], Eddie LT; [REDACTED], Kendrick J LCDR CNRC, N3; [REDACTED], Amanda CTR N65538; CAPT Keith [REDACTED]; [REDACTED], Leslie M CIV HQ-CNRC, N9; [REDACTED], Christine A LCDR NAVCYBERFOR, N13; [REDACTED], Maria CIV NSTC HQ, ODCGE; [REDACTED], Sheila A CIV 2300, Code 2304; [REDACTED], Michael W PSCS OCNR, N0951; [REDACTED], Shirley J CIV OPNAV N134; [REDACTED], Jason M. HM1; [REDACTED], Lisa G CTR SPAWARSYSCEN-PACIFIC, 81000; [REDACTED], Melvin C ABHC CNRC MILLINGTON, TN; [REDACTED], Joseph A CAPT NAVINSGEN, N00A; [REDACTED], John C CTR CNAP/CNAF, N01DB; [REDACTED], Burt L CAPT PEOC4I, 67600; [REDACTED], Dennis A CDR CHNAVPERS N134, New York; [REDACTED], Emma; [REDACTED], Michele R LT CHNAVPERS, N130; [REDACTED], Jaucelin OS1 NETWARCOM; [REDACTED], Bill CIV CNMOC, EEO; [REDACTED], Michael K LCDR COMPACFLT, N5; [REDACTED], Elsie M CIV CHNAVPERS, N134; [REDACTED], Alana LT CHINFO NEWSDESK; [REDACTED], Eduardo LT NRD RICHMOND, VA; [REDACTED], Garth H LCDR NRC, N9; [REDACTED], Walfrido; [REDACTED], Angelin M LCDR CNRC Millington, TN 00C; [REDACTED], Jeffrey S LT CNP N1/3/4; [REDACTED], Virginia CIV, NETWARCOM, NetOps 52; [REDACTED], Jeannie D LCDR SECNAV, CHINFO; [REDACTED], Steven A HMCM (NAVPERS), N13; [REDACTED], Anne G Captain CHNAVPERS, N134; [REDACTED], William K CIV OPNAV, N135C; [REDACTED], Roy CDR CNRC, OOC; [REDACTED], Dionn M PSC CNRFC, N01E; [REDACTED], Lucreatria L CIV NAVFAC SW; [REDACTED], Dennis L Jr. LT NOSC Detroit, XO; [REDACTED], Everton A LT NAVFAC LANT, OPS; [REDACTED], Elena G LCDR N1 N134; [REDACTED], Constance CIV NAVSUP HQ, Sup 03; [REDACTED], Shanda S CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 81000; [REDACTED], Carolyn CIV; [REDACTED], Clayton J CIV NCIS, Code 24; [REDACTED], Joanne M CTR NAVAIR, AIR-4.5; [REDACTED], Bradford A CIV OPNAV N40, OPNAV N401B; [REDACTED], Carol L CIV CHNAVVPERS, N132; [REDACTED], Anthony V CIV ONR, 00SB; [REDACTED], Judd A LCDR OPNAV N1, N133; [REDACTED], Robert W LCDR COMSUBLANT, N10; [REDACTED], Joseph F LT OPNAV N1, N134; [REDACTED], Ferdinand P CIV NAVFAC HQ, TF; [REDACTED], Michelle CIV CNRC MILLINGTON, TN, N9; [REDACTED], Carole CIV N2/N6C113; [REDACTED], Janet G. LTJG; LT Larry [REDACTED]; LT Sherlock; [REDACTED], Cynthia CAPT OPNAV, N00E; [REDACTED], Carlotta N CIV NETSAFA, N31A; [REDACTED], Rebecca; [REDACTED], Dave; [REDACTED], Gwen; [REDACTED], Janice A CTR SPAWARSYSCEN-PACIFIC, 81000; [REDACTED], Matthew; [REDACTED], Monica CIV OPANV N2\N6C113; [REDACTED], Thomas J RDML OPNAV N43, N43; [REDACTED], Taylor T CIV NAVFAC HQ, TF; [REDACTED], Nikki LCDR; [REDACTED], Ruth G. CIV NAVAIR - Human Resources 732000A; [REDACTED], Carl K DCCS NAVAIR; [REDACTED], Chris CAPT SHIPS; [REDACTED], Bridgett M YN1 CNRFC, N3; [REDACTED], Kevin A CWO3 CNRC, OOC; [REDACTED], Enjoli M LT NR CNO MGT ANALYSIS, NAFW; [REDACTED], Carri A CDR BUPERS-Military Community Management - BUPERS-315F; [REDACTED], Paul Ph.D CIV USN, NPRST-BUPERS-1; [REDACTED], Laura M CIV CNAP/CNAF, N01DA; [REDACTED], Stefanie E MCC COMPACFLT, N00PA; [REDACTED], Darren C LCDR OCNR, N0951; [REDACTED], Miriam R CIV NAVSEA HQ SEA 10; [REDACTED], Carla CIV NSTC, OD; [REDACTED], Oreta CIV OSBP, OSBP; [REDACTED], Francine HMCM CNIC HQ, N00; [REDACTED], Virginia J CTR NAVAIR, B1489; [REDACTED], Anthony Q LCDR CNP, N134; [REDACTED], Will M CAPT OPNAV, N86; [REDACTED], James M LCDR COMSUBLANT, N10D; [REDACTED], Mark STGCS N134; [REDACTED], Mark A. LCDR NETWARCOM, N15; [REDACTED], Kay CIV (CPF N1CP); [REDACTED], Michael ; [REDACTED], Debra LCDR; [REDACTED], Kevin S CIV OPNAV N100B, N100; [REDACTED], Alexander A YNC OCNR, N095F1; [REDACTED], Frederick F CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 81140; [REDACTED], Jason T CDR OJAG, CODE 61; [REDACTED], Marie A CDR OCNR, N0951C; [REDACTED], Eric S. LTJG; [REDACTED], Tony; [REDACTED], Matthew R LCDR NRRS Gainesville, XGVL; [REDACTED], George E CIV N134, N134; [REDACTED], Antoinette B BUPERS-00U; [REDACTED], Michael E CIV USFF, N1Z; [REDACTED], Iesha; [REDACTED], Irma C CIV NAVSEA HQ, SEA 10; [REDACTED], Tyrone LNCM (SCW) OJAG, CODE 06; CAPT Etienne; CAPT Roger [REDACTED]; [REDACTED], Maria N CIV OJAG, Code 61; [REDACTED], Diane G CTR SEA 10 10; [REDACTED], Daniel LCDR CNSF, N002; [REDACTED], Kim C CTR NAVSEA, SEA 10; [REDACTED], Zachary CIV NAVSUP HQ, Sup 33A; [REDACTED], Danielle LT ; [REDACTED], Mary CAPT EDO School, CO; [REDACTED], Stephen J CDR NAVFAC HQ, TF; [REDACTED], Karen D CIV FRCSE, JAX 6.3.2.1; [REDACTED], Monica E CIV ASN (M&RA), Diversity Officer; [REDACTED], Myles Jr CAPT SPAWAR, 51710; [REDACTED], Fleurette S LCDR NOSC Baltimore, BRONX; [REDACTED], Rickson E LCDR CNSF, N00D; [REDACTED], Michael D LCDR OPNAV N1, N1B DEA; [REDACTED], Felipe P LT NOSC Jaxs, JAXS; [REDACTED], Terri L LCDR FISC Norfolk, 503; [REDACTED], Cornell CIV CNRC MILLINGTON, TN, N9; [REDACTED], Maura C LT N1, N134; [REDACTED], Damian M LCDR N1, N1ZB; [REDACTED], Antonio S CIV NSWCDD, C94; [REDACTED], Henry L CIV; [REDACTED], Anthony F CDR CNMOC, N1M; [REDACTED], Victor J LCDR VFA-195; [REDACTED], Mark J CDR NSTC, OD; [REDACTED], Elizabeth CDR OPNAV, N134; [REDACTED], Noel HMC; [REDACTED], Tonya L ISCS N2/N6C121; [REDACTED], Elizabeth CIV (NAVSUPHQ); [REDACTED], Brodes CDR; [REDACTED], Alphonso D LSC COMSUBLANT, N102; [REDACTED], Kathryn A CTR SEA 10 10; [REDACTED], Jose G. LCDR N1, N13; [REDACTED], Delphine CIV NPC/; [REDACTED], Sharah T CIV NAVSEA, SEA 10TE; [REDACTED], Clark A CIV FRCSE, JAX 63211; [REDACTED], Jonathan P LCDR CNRFC, N5; [REDACTED], Keith M, NAVELSG, N02A; [REDACTED], Marvin CDR; [REDACTED], Keith D CIV NAVFAC HQ, TF; [REDACTED], Matthew K LCDR CSP, N1R; [REDACTED], Janette B CDR OPNAV, N134 Navy Diversity Directorate; angela.[REDACTED]@nwc.navy.mil; [REDACTED], Rodney LT; [REDACTED], Deborah A LT CNRFC, N5; [REDACTED], Cathy CIV NSTC, OD; [REDACTED], Jean M CAPT; [REDACTED], Roy LTJG MSCHQ, N1M; [REDACTED], Hannah A LCDR COMNAVSURFLANT, N43E4; [REDACTED], Donna CIV FLTCYBERCOM/C10F; [REDACTED], Toya J CTR NAVSEA HQ, SEA 10; [REDACTED], Debra A., CDR U.S. FLTCYBERCOM/C10F N1; [REDACTED], Laura L. CIV NAVAIR 7.3.4; [REDACTED], Evelyn C LT NPC, 4412; [REDACTED], Robin LCDR Navy Total Force, N134; [REDACTED], Michael R CIV Pers-44, Pers-4412; [REDACTED], Antonio C CDR CNRC, 00C; [REDACTED], Lloyd CDR TACRON 21, PXO; [REDACTED], Emily J LT CNBG-1, N3; [REDACTED], James M Jr CIV NNSY, C970; [REDACTED], Bonita; [REDACTED], Riley W LCDR Navy Total Force, N134W; [REDACTED], Brittani M CIV NAWCAD, 7.3.1; [REDACTED], Jessica OSC N1, N134; [REDACTED], Lawrence D LCDR VAW-116, MAINT; [REDACTED], Richlyn C LT CHINFO, OI-5; [REDACTED], Shawn G YNCM(SW/AW) N00; [REDACTED], Dwight K CIV Code 900, Code 940; [REDACTED], Janet S; [REDACTED], Tashinda M LT OJAG, CODE 61; [REDACTED], Cindy LCDR NRD RICHMOND VA, EPO; [REDACTED], Joe; [REDACTED], Marion ABCM CSP, N111; [REDACTED], Robert A CAPT NLSO NC, WASHINGTON, DC; [REDACTED], Tulimalefoi M PS1 NAVSUP FLC San Diego, Code 4315; [REDACTED], Genida M CIV COMNAVREG SE; [REDACTED], Christine CIV NAVSUP HQ, SUP 03; [REDACTED], Lydia W CIV NNSY, C100PI.5; [REDACTED], James G CDR NOSC Newport, N00; [REDACTED], Marco D LCDR COMNAVSURFOR, N002; [REDACTED], Tre`Sina E CIV CNIC HQ, N16; [REDACTED], Laura K LT N1, N134; [REDACTED], Jean M LCDR Women's Policy, N134; [REDACTED], Beverly H CIV CNIC HQ, N16; [REDACTED], Suyen M LCDR Navy Total Force, N130; [REDACTED], Scott F CDR OJAG, CODE 61; [REDACTED], Tanisha N LT NSTC, N5; [REDACTED], Matthew T CIV NAVFAC HQ, TF; [REDACTED], Monika J. LT NHC PaxRiver NAS ; Verena [REDACTED]; [REDACTED], Thomas J CDR CHIEF OF NAVY CHAPLAINS, N0971A; [REDACTED], Darryl L CDR CNAP/CNAF, N01D; [REDACTED], Richard K OSC(SW) Navy Cyber Forces, N431; [REDACTED], Gregory Paul, CDR, SUPP UNIT 0823; [REDACTED], Lashawn C RPC COMTHIRDFLT
Cc: [REDACTED], William LCDR OPNAV, N00Z; [REDACTED], Margaret [REDACTED]CIV CNO,N00Z; [REDACTED], Cynthia CAPT OPNAV, N00E; [REDACTED], Don E CDR CNO, N00AA

Subject: ***URGENT*** - DATA CALL FOR CNO DIVERSITY DISCUSSION

SDWG Working Group Member,

Due to the diversity of membership in this group, I am going direct to you as your command's representative to this working group for this data call instead of through your front office. If you require this request to go through your front office please provide me POC information ASAP.

Please complete the first worksheet of the attached excel spreadsheet regarding Diversity investment, with the best information possible for your command's diversity organization by Close of Business Friday, 10 JUNE. Instructions are provided in the excel spreadsheet. Your command will only need to complete the first worksheet. Validated information from this request needs to be provided on Monday, 13 JUNE NLT 1200 for incorporation into the CNO's Diversity discussion that will occur on the 15th of June.

Thank you all for your input. The data you provide will help inform the discussion at the Diversity forum next week.

V/R,

William [REDACTED]
LCDR USN
(703) 692-[REDACTED](office)

50 comments:

Retired Now said...

Diversity: the Name goes On

Before the Quality goes In.

(an appropriate motto for this Navy program, as well as for Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, and many, many other entities. Process is the newest false god, and end Products matter less and less.)

Facts said...

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-04/tusa-dig040606.php

Maybe scientific studies that show diverse organizations perform better than non-diverse organizations, and there are dozens of these studies that come to the same conclusion across all types of organizations, influence the thoughts of our military leadership.

OldCOB said...

So the Diversity Commissar's now circumvent the chain of command.  What else are they sending without inlcuding unit CO's?  Someone needs to needs to check William [REDACTED] LCDR USN's commission for legitimacy.  Me thinks it may have come by mail.

Tom Goering said...

No wonder NMCI is so slow - with garbage taskers like this soaking up the precious bandwidth its a wonder any real administrative work gets done.

CDR K said...

"Welcome to the command Comrade Diversity Officer..."

"No need to welcome me officer formerly known as 'Skipper', I already know everything about you and we need to talk..."

P.S. Wallace said...

You know, in the middle of World War II ('43), a retired 30's era CNO came in and surveyed the aviation officers of the Pacific Fleet, directly, with I believe no notification of the chain of command, on how they felt things should be as far as who should have what kind of say in running the Pacific War--aviators or non-aviators.

Nimitz, when he found out, was not in the least bit happy about things going on behind his back, and said so, especially as they could be detrimental to good order and discipline. The retired Admiral eventually went back into retirement the next year.

Seems to me that William [redacted] needs a talking to. This kind of data may (or may not) need to be recorded, but if can never be conducted through anything but the proper channels. Commander to Commander. CNO to appropriate commanding officer, then down as needed. There is nothing about being involved with "diversity" that makes one immune to the idea that one is a military officer first, subordinate to others as appointed by the chain, and I wonder if that message is the one being put out. I have my doubts.

And for any wondering if I practice what I preach--I've been hamstrung at work the last week because I need to send some stuff out to others in the organization, but my immediate superior has been taking some time to look at it. So I wait for his okay to do so. Because it's his "command", not mine, and I don't want to sandbag. William [redacted] could take a lesson.

CDR Salamander said...

Nice straw man and non-response to the issue.  No one here is talking about homogeneous groups you dimwitted a55. 

LT B said...

What happens if you don't do this tasker?  As the CO of the unit/ship/whatever you decide that training your guys in maintenance, DC, prepping for INSURV, marksmanship or fixing that which is broke, takes precedent, and you decide that in the pile of crap that is your life/job (balance) this is so minor and does not affect mission efficacy one bit so treat it as such.  Do they fire you?  Do you take them to court for an illegal order?  Soon, we may see this pop. 

Grumpy Old Ham said...

Just for grins, I copied'n'pasted the text of the message into MS Word.  The resulting file size just barely cracked 16kB.  Assuming there wasn't an instructional video attached to the message that bumped the size up to a couple of MB, if a 16kB message can bring NMCI to a crawl then y'all have serious problems ;) .

(yes, I know your comment was somewhat in jest...but there's a kernel of truth in there, too)

Facts said...

Apparently, any counterpoint to your weekly diatribes against women and minorities results in grade school name-calling.  Thanks for revealing your thin skin and immaturity when dealing with a differing take on the situation.

Tom Goering said...

Aye, the worksheets and excel documents add up :)

Diversity is not about counting heads, it's about making heads count and manipulate the same data over and over again until the desired result is achieved.

Stu said...

Some name-calling is indeed gratuitious.  However, at other times it is simply accurate.  It would have been one thing if Sal called you a "giant poopyhead."  However, he called you a "dimwitted a55."  I believe you comments bear that out to be factual. 

Good day.  :)

Stu said...

<span>Some name-calling is indeed gratuitious.  However, at other times it is simply accurate.  It would have been one thing if Sal called you a "giant poopyhead."  However, he called you a "dimwitted a55."  I believe your comments bear that out to be factual.   
 
Good day.  :) </span>

sid said...

"Diverse Crew" is as big an oxymoron as there ever was...

Do you think these guys could've achieved this if the were steeped in "Diversity"...?

Facts said...

Thanks for your perspective.   Do you think we should resegregate the Army in the name of unit cohesion?  Maybe we could establish units solely composed of women, Latinos, gays?  I'll bet the unit cohesion would be through the roof!

John said...

Everyone, repeat EVERYONE, who generates taskers like this, or has time to respond to them is complicit in a fraudulant waste of time and exercises in veiled racism.

In tough budgetary times, every one of the "diversity" fetish clowns needs to be fired and the billets eliminated.

Diversity puts no ordnance on target, only Bu11$h!t on paper.

sid said...

<span>Do you think we should resegregate the Army in the name of unit cohesion?  </span>

Another strawman Facts(?)

Nobody ever said that.

Point is, the diversistazi spends all of its time celebrating differences.

In a military organization, that is lethal.

Look in this pic and tally up who is exhibiting the least military bearing by the in place diversinazi difference buckets.


Thats what Navy Diversity has wrought.


Oh...

And I'll paycheck bet you think I'm "white" ....Don't yah.

Stu said...

One day, I would also like to see an end to "Super Excel Spreadsheet Management" in the Navy. 

ewok40k said...

how many bullets for grunts down in AFG buy all these manhours?

Grandpa Bluewater. said...

Ahem. Clearly Mister Misnomer ("Facts") is more than a little weak on the concept of "chain of command" and why it is essential to combat and other military effectiveness. Criticism of current policy is entirely a separate issue, much less criticism/analysis of current operations and current casualties. Likely a visitor from the land of the political left.

Military effectiveness is the constant concern of every competent military member.
Meritocracy, not quotas for promotion, is the surest road to military effectiveness for any given unit at any level within the DoD. 

The Navy is one of the most factually diverse organizations on the planet, and at this late date could not be otherwise. I guess you don't get out to the fleet, or the waterfront,  or around the logistic and personnel support for both, much.

The current Diversity apparatchiks have nothing to do with any of this.  They waste time, misorder priorities and undermine the unit chain of command. It doesn't matter if their goal is more Slavic CO's or perfect spitshines on working shoes for deck working parties, they the means they use are deleterious to the Navy's readiness for prompt, sustained victorious combat operations at sea. Undermining the unit COs is the surest way to attack the combat effectiveness of their units.

Minorities? Doesn't matter when launching a boat in a rough sea, or serving a gun. It's all about an individual's performance of duty. Promotion and assignment must be on the same basis or the Navy and it's sailors suffer.

Women? Against women? Not damn likely, with the wife and daughters I have. Women at sea?  Well, there are some problems with discipline that accompany that.
No real solutions in the last 30 years. Mostly because Diversity Mafia insist there are no problems, can be no problems and shall be no problems.

If you don't want to solve problems as they appear, "Well, you should have joined the Air Force" (h/t - Gene Hackman). Presumably, they have none.  After all, they have such lovely flower beds. Since they change them out every time a 3 star or above visits the base, they can't have anything important to worry about.

CDR Salamander said...

You're welcome!  Glad you found the blogosphere!  Impart us with more of your cultured wisdom.  We are all just so unwashed and nutty in the brain ... and immature to boot!

Should we put ourselves in timeout?

CDR Salamander said...

Sid,
I'm still laughing at the fact that the first time I saw you I thought for a second, "that's my wife's hair."

Sailors really shouldn't think of their wife when they see another Sailor from the back, and we weren't even four months in to a deployment either.   :-D   

Then again, that could have just been my slavemaster mindset coming out.  

P.S. Wallace said...

Along those lines, after "Howlin' Mad" Smith relieved the commander of the Army's 24th Infantry Div. at Saipan for his division's lack of progress**, the commander of Army forces in the Pacific (i.e., "type commander") came out to make grief about the situation. Kelly "Terrible" Turner, commander of the Amphibious Force, accused the Army guy of trying to exercise "undue command influence" and basically told him to go pound sand. But at least the Army commander was an adminstrative commander, with the emphasis on the "in command" part. He wasn't a staff officer.

Speaking of the Army, my understanding (perhaps wrong), is that they have a better tradition when it comes to telling HQ staff (BDE, BN, DIV, etc) that they are doing improper tasking and need to work through it the right way. Like I said, could be wrong, since I'm taking my understanding of Army culture from limited data sources.  

**I've seen the ground. Not easy to take. Still don't know if Smith made the right call or not. On the other hand, Saipan *was* taken.

LT B said...

Facts,
   The issue is not diversity.  We have it.  Everybody here would be glad to recruit in barrios, minority laden neighborhoods, etc.  What we WANT, nay, what the Navy NEEDS is to target all for recruitment, then promote everybody based on merit and capability.  Don't target racial and ethnic differences for promotion but the most qualified people.  NOBODY would have a problem w/ that.  Unless you are saying that minorities are lesser people, less capable and over the 40 or 50 years of civil rights have not gained any education or capabilities.  Do you think that Blacks, Philippinos or Hispanics are incapable of competing on a level playing field?  Are YOU racist? 

Set the standard, hold the standard, train to the standard and it will all workout just fine.  If you argue against that then maybe you are just a "giant poopyhead."

pk said...

during the sixties there was a cruiser in sandiego that was given over to an all black crew. (biiiig thing about it in the national news).

never heard another word about it.


then there was the Norton Sound mess, we all heard how that one came out.

C

DeltaBravo said...

Weekly diatribes against women?  I didn't get that memo...  oh, wait... I was busy making comments about the problems women cause ourselves too.

Ship full of women?  They might want to try it and while that might get rid of one set of problems, it'll sure as hell cause a whole different set of problems.

No one is against minorities, women, etc. here.  You must be new.  What everyone resents is the bean-counting mentality that numbers and proportions and mandatory programs take precedence when we're fighting.. what is it up to... 13 wars now?

CDR Salamander said...

Facts (sic),
What blog are you reading?  Do you ever really read this blog?  You know who has been one of the strongest supporters of women serving in the Navy in the blogophere (much to the fussyness of many of his readers) since its start?

You might as well call me a homophobe due to my stance on the repeal of DADT.

Maybe you should change your name from "Facts" to "Ignorance" - it would fit better with you knowledge of your host's position on things.

If you want to be treated with respect by your host - return the favor you dimwitted a55.

SouthernAP said...

It seems like I need to bring this up every week on this topic. I just wonder how many trolls will understand this point that I am trying to make.

From the US Navy Standard Regulations
Specifically Chapter 11

Article 1132: <span><span>Compliance With LAwful Orders.

All persons in the naval service sre required to obey readily and strictly, and to execute promptIy, the lawful orders of their superiors.

Article 1137:  <span><span>Obligation to Report Offenses.</span></span>
<span><span>Persons in the nsval service shall report as soon as possible to superior authority all offenses under the Uniform Code of Military Justice which come under their observation, except when such psrsons are themselves already criminally involved in such offenses at the time such offenses first come under their observation.</span></span>
<span><span></span></span>
<span><span>Article 1164: <span><span>Equal Opportunity and Treatment

Equal opportunity shall be afforded all on the basis of individual effort, performance, conduct, diligence, potential, capabilities and talents without discrimination as to race,
</span>


</span>

<span><span>color, </span></span><span><span>religion, creed, sex or nations origin. Naval personnel shall demonatrate a strong personal commitment to stsnd on these principles and carry them out.</span></span>
</span></span>
</span></span>

11B40 said...

Greetings:

Back in my Psychology studying days, there was a bit of folk wisdom, or perhaps comedy, about the Rohrshach (ink-blot) test. Supposedly, your basic looney-tunes would look at the whole blot and report that s/he (Diversity Thursday, you know) saw a foot. When queried, the aforementioned (legal industry slur) would point to some little foot-like part of the ink-blot and say, "There!"

That's pretty much what that "Have a nice day" at the end of the e-mail reminded me of. "Have a nice day" ???  What part of military don't you understand.

LT B said...

And know your stance on DADT repeal is clear, Phib.  Thilly Thailor. :)

LT B said...

That was the point I made previously about denying the order.  It smacks of an illegal order and is not in alignment w/ present law.  I take care of my Sailors and LOVE to see them excel and support the mission.  I have never thought that I should help any of them due to their skin color or reproductive organs.  THAT is a Fact!

XBradTC said...

'twas the 27th ID commander that Smith relieved. And I'm of the opinion that he was in the wrong. 

As to the cultural differences between the Army and Navy... it is so apples and bicycles that no real comparison can be made.

XBradTC said...

<span>Set the standard, hold the standard, train to the standard and it will all workout just fine.</span>

Preach it, brother!

The Usual Suspect said...

Facts, if that is your real name, I beleive that Sid was quite cleary pointing out that everybody should consider themselves Shipmates of the Navy Blue variety first and foremost.  No gender, no race, no religious affillitation - just blue.  Cohesive blue.

The Usual Suspect said...

Facts, if that is your real name, I beleive that Sid was quite cleary pointing out that everybody should consider themselves Shipmates of the Navy Blue variety first and foremost.  No gender, no race, no religious affillitation - just blue.  Cohesive blue.

The Usual Suspect said...

Facts, if that is your real name, I believe that Sid was quite cleary pointing out that everybody should consider themselves Shipmates of the Navy Blue variety first and foremost.  No gender, no race, no religious affillitation or sexual preference - just blue.  Cohesive blue.

sid said...

LOL!

You can always spot somebody who is "mixed"...

We never know what in the f[]k to do with our hair!!!!

As a matter of fact, there is a whole blog on that subject

(and some mighty racists folks comment in there too)

sid said...

<span>Thanks for your perspective.</span>
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<span>Facts...you have no earthly clue.</span>
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<span>Wanna hear how it was being the darkest person in a lilly white -Southern during the height of the civil rights trauma- world Facts(?)..?</span>
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<span>And how being inside the gate was such a wonderful respite...even though I was still generally the darkest person in the room? </span>
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<span>Oddly enough though, I've grown more "white" (in a different era I would've claimed I could "pass" easier) as I've grown older.</span>
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<span>Nowadays, I sport a "passing" resemblance to this guy.</span>
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<span>You can get some facts about him here.</span>
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<span>But what he had to say decades ago resonates very deeply given my "perspective"...</span>
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<span>"Racially, I seem to have (who knows for sure) seven blood mixtures: French, Dutch, Welsh, Negro, German, Jewish, and Indian. Because of these, my position in America has been a curious one. I have lived equally amid the two race groups. Now white, now colored. From my own point of view I am naturally and inevitably an American."</span>
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<span>So, as far as I am concerned, the Naval Diversistazis can go * themselves Facts....</span>
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Squidly said...

What a load of horseshit.  The worst part is they are hammering our folks in the sandbox with crap like this.  Diversity / DEOMI surveys from home commands, ditto from NAVCENT and TF IA.  Nice distraction from the usual 18 hour days...NOT.

sid said...

<span><span>You can get some facts about him here.</span></span>
http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/s_z/toomer/life.htm

Grandpa Bluewater. said...

The last line is Perfect Characterization.   Perfect.

Steel City said...

<span>While serving on active duty if ever saw the words "...I am going direct to you as your command's representative to this working group for this data call instead of through your front office" alarms and bells would go off with the likelihood on what was to follow was staffed at the wingnut level.  Sure enough, reading the rest of the e-mail confirms my original concern.
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DM05 said...

This should have set off the first warning klaxon ***URGENT*** - DATA CALL FOR CNO DIVERSITY DISCUSSION....

Really? Is this REALLY the # 1 pressing priority making UIC's go to full panic and effective stop? "Inform the discussion" --- LOL! 

CNO and guilt mongerers, wasting government $$. Please, call the fraud, waste, and abuse hotline.

MR T's Haircut said...

PAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Pity the Fool!

Ok so your piss poor planning in an emergency on my part... NOT.

So many things wrong here.. where to begin... oh I know.. If it is IMPORTANT enough to GET RIGHT, than take your due DILIGENCE and do it correctly!  Not a SHORT FUSED JIBBER JABBER TASKER FROM A LCDR?!?!  WTF!!!

NO

I also notice so many OPNAV emails on this it probably clogged NMCI for an hour...

LOSERS

MR T's Haircut said...

<span>PAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
 
I PITY THE FOOLS</span><span>!</span>
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<span>Admiral WAKE TE F)@)( UP!!!</span>

Ok so your piss poor planning is an emergency on my part... NOT.  
 
So many things wrong here.. where to begin... oh I know.. If it is IMPORTANT enough to GET RIGHT, than take your due DILIGENCE and do it correctly!  Not a SHORT FUSED JIBBER JABBER TASKER FROM A LCDR?!?!  WTF!!!  
 
NO  
 
I also notice so many OPNAV emails on this it probably clogged NMCI for an hour...  
 
LOSERS

this helps us defend the Constitution how?

stem said...

..the CNO visited a conference I attended yesterday....during his remarks he mentioned that he had been in a 1/2 day diversity meeting on Wednesday.....really?!......;tis good to be retiring - the stench is getting stronger.....

NFO said...

No comment here.  I am officially listed as a "non-diverse" person by Navy Personnel Command.

anon said...

The Cyber Forces Command Chief Diversity Officer who implemented the first domain wide DIVERSITY STRATEGY was not sufficiently 'diverse' in his operational assignments to earn promotion to Commander.  Justice has been served.  Let the band play on.

subiconoclast said...

I don't care what the tasking is about.  No weenie in N00Z tasks anybody legitimately.  Last time I checked, tasking authority flows directly through individuals wearing Command pins, or in their absence then their Deputies with formally delegated authority.  

Any officer who responds to this sort of direct staff request diminishes the principle of Command.  Any Commander who allows his staff to bypass the Chain of Command implicitly does the same.  Time for CNO to do his part in ensuring staffs get "back in the box" - Responsibility, Authority, and Accountability flow through Command and not through our bazillion 'N-Codes.'  

Too many staff weenies nowadays seem to wear phantom stars on their collars because their Admirals allow them to act that way.  Here's hoping ADM Greenert will reinstill the discipline of Command in our bloated Shoreside Navy (not that I'm holding my breath).  

DeltaBravo said...

ahhh.... now my week is complete.