Tuesday, November 16, 2010

Not safe for Old Cold Warriors ....

Oh goodness, where is my defibrillator? My stars and garters; I am a little light in the head right now.

I cannot believe I passed up that Attaché job in Ukraine ... but it was best for my marriage, in a variety of ways.



Sigh ... the Soviets/Russians were good enemies in a variety of ways. You'll never see an Al Qaeda spokesman look like that.

Oh, and snerk; who is that fella over her right shoulder?

In case you were wondering what started this; here is the video. I'm not sure what lions have to do with it ....


50 comments:

SCOTTtheBADGER said...

They could have let the poor lass rehearse that a few times, and not made her do it in one take.  She fills out a sweater almost as nice as Actus Rhesus.

Anonymous said...

She reminds me of <span>Leeloo Minai Lekarariba-Laminai-Tchai Ekbat De Sebat</span>

kmadams85 said...

Nicely done video on the system concept, if a bit long.  Pretty clear that their CONOPS is to attack ships in international waters without provocation and from behind the camouflage of a merchant.

kmadams85 said...

Sorry for the Guest comment, that was me....

Steeljaw said...

Not just ships -- the SS-N-27 has a significant land attack capability in it's LACM version as well.  More of a threat, IMNSHO, than the so-called SCUD-in-a-tub...
w/r, SJS

UltimaRatioRegis said...

Let the record show that I did NOT make any untoward comment regarding the capacity of Actus Rhesus to fill out a sweater.....

Grandpa Bluewater said...

What URR said.

Moving on a bit, the young women of the nation-states which formerly made up the Soviet Union are, more often then not, stunningly attractive. High in the Stupifying Jones Range of the Max Fine Hammer Scale.

Interesting system. Could the CIA set up a shell company to buy them for the US Navy, and do the LCS's (fraternal twins...Little Crappy Ship and Lousy Combat System) have weight, GM, righting arm and space to take them aboard, if the aluminum can handle the load?

Hold out for a volume discount.

LCS delende est.

Vigilis said...

Arms sales must be setting a blistering pace; that is, until Wal-Mart gets into Russia and begins selling the discounted, unadvertised Chinese equivalent. 

GIMP said...

Sun Tzu said: All warfare is based on deception.  We have willingly turned ourselves into the redcoats we fought so hard to be free from a couple of hundred years ago.  Our way of war has gone from hit and run, sniper, guerilla, deception - which worked great - to stand up mass up, let them know we're coming - which doesn't appear to work at all.

We shouldn't be upset that others realize the fundamental concept that war is war, not sport, and deception is a critical component of it.  We should be upset that we act as if deception doesn't matter.

JAV said...

What a sales job! Nice of all those opposing forces to sit there defenseless and clueless while all those missiles come at them-no Patriots, no AEGIS, no CIWS, counterbattery radar, etc, not to mention ECM, UAV surveillance, or aerial interdiction. 

SCOTTtheBADGER said...

I am merely standing up for the superior American product. I am a Patriotic Badger. ;)

SCOTTtheBADGER said...

Whom?

The Usual Suspect said...

Kind of like the old German Raiders.  What's new is old and what's old is new.  And as for Svetlana's script mentioning that Russia has a proven system for not letting weapons fall into terrorist hands...what about state terror sponsors Iran, Syria, and North Korea?  Oh, that's right, they're just misunderstood.

xbradtc said...

Completely O/T, but Byron might appreciate this tale of shipfitting done poorly:

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LT Rusty said...

Leeloo Dallas Multipass!  You know she was born in Kiev, right?

Scott: below is for you.  And jeez, dude, what badger-hole could be deep enough for you to not have seen the greatest sci-fi movie of the 90's: The Fifth Element!

Aubrey said...

You may need the Badger Protection Program before AR gets done with you!!

8-9 years ago, when I finally gave up on planning and thinking and committed to actually travelling, my brother decided to meet me in Prague and then travel to Krakow and Warsaw with me (I had already been travelling for about 8 months at that point).

The entire time leading up to his part of the trip he would email jokes about old stereotypes of Czech and Polish women, and would question "why the hell" I was that far east rather than in, say, France.

Then he got there.

Took him five minutes to figure out I knew what I was doing, and that the old stereotypes were actually successful Russian propaganda to try and keep us away from their women!

C-dore 14 said...

My favorite part of the sales video was all the US-built equipment being used by the evil "aggressor nation" as opposed to the former Soviet-Bloc hardware generally found in such countries. ;)

Anonymous said...

Club K... Kiwanis? (Salamanders made me think of that when he mentioned "Lions") Kiwanis' do indeed sneak up on you doing stealthy deeds.

Never mind.

ewok40k said...

You can say they keep the old code-colors of Harpoon alive...
And ad is well targeted: You have your own tropical paradise being threatened by rampaging Yankees? Buy some cheap dispersable deterrent that is impossible to kill unless enemy kills all the containers in your country.
In fact I am tempted to think my own country could buy a few to deter Russians themselves...
BTW, how many of those can be launched from single large container ship in a saturation attack vs, say US CVNBG?

ewok40k said...

Notice that the setup looks much like classic preventive war against army that is at its weakest when concentrating prior to invasion - 1967 "6 day war style", or as many historians argue, as Hitler did to Stalin in 1941.
BTW, imagine what a few dozens of those containers would do to Chinese trying to cross Taiwan straits? And Chinese may just pissed off Russians enough by pirating their miltech for Russians to sell something to Taiwan...

ewok40k said...

She looked to me more like
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001713/
Isabella Scorupco.

xformed said...

Managed to luck into a trip into Dubrovnik in 79.  Streets were immaculatley clean, you couldn't hold up a camera and not get a post card quality shot, and 9 out of 10 women were head turners....

But then again, it could have just been a Commie plot of disinformation....

J. Michael Antoniewicz II said...

When I first saw the Club-K vid a few months ago, my first reaction was to LMAO at the unsubtleness of the marketing department that made it.  
I mean, come on, Red vs Blue?  
Red has sun drenched white sandy beaches with 'Born Free' playing in the background?  
And Blue is covered in U.S. Military hardware with menacing music?  
Then Red deploys Club'K and fires them to 'Pirates of the Caribbean' music?  
Marketing GENIUS!!!  

Still, referring to them as 'toys' in the explanation vid?  

Bets on how long till Iran buys some?  Or till Disney sues for use of their music? 

Dave Navarre said...

I had a Ukrainian emigre as a Sociology Professor back in the late 1980s and he would often say after a joke went over like a lead ballon, "Ees much funnier in Ukrainian."

Casey Tompkins said...

GIMP, I don't know what history book you were reading, but pretty much all of the major battles during the War of Independence were fought by American regulars, using standard European drill.

Also, the "mass" approach worked pretty well during the Civil War, Spanish-American War, WW1, WW2, and Korea. Vietnam was only occasionally a conventional war.

Casey Tompkins said...

Not to be the materialistic (and cynical) weasel here, but what do we know about this system's actual capabilities & performance?

I don't doubt LCS and DDX looked great on paper, too... ;)

C-dore 14 said...

Casey, Back in '80 when I took the "Nuclear Weapons and Foreign Policy" course at PG school, the words "rail-based systems" and "over-pressure" were often used together.

Surfcaster said...

I would guess, not much. Too many flys, not enough swatters.

Anonymous said...

There were over a 1000 clones of her walking around the streets of Bucharest this summer. Sweet! ;) . I never got to hear the words-was too busy looking at the orange shirt!

Skippy-san said...

<span>There were over a 1000 clones of her walking around the streets of Bucharest this summer. Sweet! ;) . I never got to hear the words-was too busy looking at the orange shirt!</span>

sid said...

So happens I had the (mis)fortune of riding on a bus from Montivideo to Colonia last year with Tricky, who played Right Arm in that movie because the Rio Plata was too rough for the ferry to make it out into the open roadstead off Montivideo. Heck, it was pretty sporty up the river in Colonia, as this high windage ferry had a devil of a time making up to the pier shows.

He was hungover and whiny the whole way.

Now, if she had been on that bus...That would have been OhhhKayy

8-)

Malachy Marine said...

How about the faux amphibious assault of Kuwait against Iraqi forces circa Persian Gulf I? Saddam thought the Marines were going to come ashore, meanwhile Schwarzkopf was making a run from Saudi Arabia.

Southern Air Pirate said...

Skippy,

I am suprised. I would have figured you have gone snobbish about young women and thier place of birth. Since all I see are very pretty Japanese and Asian women all over your site. I never would have thought you enjoyed the scenery in Eastern Europe.

UltimaRatioRegis said...

"<span>a Commie plot of disinformation...."</span>

A Potemkin Bikini Team?

Them Commies was more crafty than we thought!

Skippy-san said...

Any port in a storm! I still prefer Asian women-but after about two weeks their Eastern European sisters looked pretty OK in their V cut sundresses. (It was a hot summer in Romania). You know the old joke about women in Israel and something in the water don't you? Well the Israelis must have exported it to Romania.

Anonymous said...

It's the Shell Game writ woldwide with one of the most common denomitators devised.  Just the hint of it being somewhere changes the whole dynamic of how you approuch and deal with the people that may have it.

It doesn't matter how good it is, it's the *hidding* in plain sight capability that's going to make everyone freak. ;)  

cdrsalamander said...

.... and they are pretty low-maintenance and tough as they are easy on the eyes.  The Slovaks and Czechs are at the top of the list though....their female military uniforms are top notch after the French Air Force's.  As you saw walking about - the average BMI was rather low as well.  

Am I a bad person for saying that - or can I blame it on Skippy's influence?

Anonymous said...

Guerilla tactics have been effective when used.  Deception works.  Mass and firepower work if you want to use a lot of men and material. Spies, assassins, guerillas, infiltrators, poison, disease, and all manner of other methods work too, and at much less cost in blood and treasure.  War is not sport; it is of vital importance to the state and must be won.  These Club K systems seem very well suited to building a reasonable defense inexpensively and deceptively enough to allow a poor nation the ability to make a stronger one pay dearly for aggression.

Skippy-san said...

Low maintenance eh? The Romanians I worked with would take issue with that statement. They thought the Romanian girls were being corrupted.

 The Americans living over there that I worked with, however-thought it was paradise! Never underestimate the value of a weak currency and a large COLA.

James said...

Am i the only one that finds the fact that a foregin arms dealer is selling cheaper popup missile systems that look like shipping containers to fight Obviously against US forces?

Seriously wtf.

Next video needs to be a slow strip over the whole thing...
Ill be in my bunk.. O:-)

Southern Air Pirate said...

Oh I am not knocking it. Having done my fair share of deployments both in the winter and summer in the 6th Fleet AOR. I have seen Czechs, Romanians, Ukrainians, Russians, and all sorts of other eastern European women. Some of whom were able to be successful  be the sweater girls of old or could make a Vicky Secret run for her wings. I have also stopped over in HK, Tokyo, Hiro, Phuket, and Malyasia; some of those women looked good too. Just wanted to make sure that Skippy wasn't selling out his ideals for a low cut orange shirt :-P

Southern Air Pirate said...

It is no different then how Boeing likes to use MiG-29's or Su-27's silhouettes for thier F-15/18 pamphlets or Raytheon using old Soviet large anti-shipping missiles to help them sell systems like Standard/RAM/CIWS/SLQ-32, etc.

mark said...

Too bad for ihre.  Mongolia.  If the low rise jean wasn't invented in country, then it was invented for Mongolian women. 

ewok40k said...

I would say target-rich environment :P
Imagine the packed airbases near the straits, and troops-packed LST and commercial ferries steaming across...

James said...

I dont know everyone uses migs. But C-17's, C-5's, Same class of LPD F-18, M1A2, all the others?

Sigh......

Casey Tompkins said...

C-dore, I must confess confusion in this case. From general reading I understand "over-pressure" as usually relating to a shockwave deriving from a nuclear explosion, but I fail to grasp the connection to which you allude. From your tone, I suspect an ironic reference.

I'll add here that the promotional video evidently referred to some sort of orbital targeting and/or guidance, which tends to rather dramatically narrow down the range of potential users.

Casey Tompkins said...

I returned to college for a few years back in 2000-2003, and there encountered several Russian lasses; all of them lovely. One in particular comes to mind. She -I'll leave names out of it- was an extraordinarily charming creature from Siberia. Things would have gone swimmingly had she not regularly reminded me I was nearly the same age as her father... :-[

Casey Tompkins said...

I returned to college for a few years back in 2000-2003, and there encountered several Russian lasses; all of them lovely. One in particular comes to mind. She -I'll leave names out of it- was an extraordinarily charming creature from Siberia. Things would have gone swimmingly had she not regularly reminded me I was nearly the same age as her father... :-[

sobersubmrnr said...

The problem is, a lot of them will end up looking like the ones below.

I prefer Asian women because they age better. My Chinese fiancee is 40 and she is hot.   

C-dore 14 said...

Casey, My reference was ironic.  Back in the Cold War, Soviet rail-based systems were considered ineffective because they could be located fairly easily and weren't hardened, and thus could be easily neutralized by low-yield nuclear systems.

As for the orbital targeting/data systems, I'd be guessing that part of the sales pitch is that such information could be made available for an additional charge.