tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post9058182663212436145..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: Diversity ThursdayCDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-83048358360370159612011-06-29T18:21:56.000-04:002011-06-29T18:21:56.000-04:00Next time they don't have the funds to send Sa...Next time they don't have the funds to send Sailors to the schools their sea going command they need to do their job (end of the FY is right around the corner) - some CMDCM needs to shove this in their face.<br /><br />Disgrace. Wait until tomorrow's DivThu. Take your meds.cdrsalamandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-65478559637676521312011-06-29T17:58:12.000-04:002011-06-29T17:58:12.000-04:00SURFOR just sent out a message mentioning this sym...SURFOR just sent out a message mentioning this symposium as "A GREAT MENTORSHIP AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR COMMUNITY WITH A FOCUS ON<br />THE RECRUITMENT, RETENTION AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF MINORITY OFFICERS. I ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY ATTENDANCE FOR THE MENTORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES PROVIDED AND I SEE THIS AS A GREAT CHANCE TO INTERACT AND NETWORK WITH SUCCESSFUL NAVAL LEADERSHIP"<br /><br />For 'our community' are they talking about the Surface Navy or something else......<br /><br />Also they are funding 20 Officers to go....hmmm, think we could find a better use for that money for the ships and Sailors?FDNF Squidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-83343598698387552082011-06-26T08:43:13.000-04:002011-06-26T08:43:13.000-04:00Additionally. Race should be the last considerati...Additionally. Race should be the last consideration for a professional mentor. As should Gender. <br /><br />More than one mentor of mine has been a female, some have even been black females.YNSNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-32847416320956051142011-06-26T08:42:05.000-04:002011-06-26T08:42:05.000-04:00DAMMIT!
You know where and how you find a mentor...DAMMIT! <br /><br />You know where and how you find a mentor? You talk to people, and you see how they perform. Find someone you like, and develop a relationship. If they are senior to you, the mentor/mentee relationship will follow. <br /><br />It's not hard, and you don't need an 'affinity' group for it. Groups like that were created for the socially awkward who are too afraid to approach someone and become aquainted colleagues and even friends. FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! <br /><br />You're surrounded by possible mentors, and if you're really smart, you will utilize EVERYONE around you in either an implicit or explicit way to learn from them.YNSNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-40833499835373783512011-06-24T13:55:15.000-04:002011-06-24T13:55:15.000-04:00Life initates an old joke from VT-10 about a pilot...Life initates an old joke from VT-10 about a pilot on his first solo, but in spades. Oopss. Can I say that?ExNFOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-12712094976114608542011-06-24T07:33:09.000-04:002011-06-24T07:33:09.000-04:00It is pretty funny. I am certain this conversatio...It is pretty funny. I am certain this conversation is OH SO RARE in the cockpit. /sarc off<br /><br />I am certain there was a lawyer IMMEDIATELY on the scene to hook the "aggrieved" up. Who knew the Bill of Rights had an 11th amendment? The right to not have your feelings hurt. LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-48963505029709848052011-06-24T06:15:54.000-04:002011-06-24T06:15:54.000-04:00Wow, that didn't take very long. I wonder exa...Wow, <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/US/flight-attendants-union-file-charges-pilots-rant/story?id=13911994" rel="nofollow">that</a> didn't take very long. I wonder exactly what damages the "offended parties" are going to claim.<br /><br />I'm sure, as always, it's all about the money...Grumpy Old Hamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-48929263063669572142011-06-24T06:00:45.000-04:002011-06-24T06:00:45.000-04:00I think many people here have had the hot mic trea...I think many people here have had the hot mic treatment (hopefully only on an internal net) before but nothing like that..... 8-)FDNF Squidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-21211239587122127942011-06-24T05:58:06.000-04:002011-06-24T05:58:06.000-04:00Diversity as a byproduct (and nothing more than th...Diversity as a byproduct (and nothing more than that) of focusing on putting the best Sailors onto the best ships/squadrons/subs = smart <br />Diversity as a policy = poison<br /><br />In this NAVADMIN and as well as on the NNOA website there is a lot of coded language that seems like Jim Crow and much like many whites in the US didn't support the policy of segregation and helped to stop it I applaud the minority members of the USN who bust their pick like all of us do and have no time for this nonsense and vocally decry this whole pot of BS (and yes, these people exist and I have had the pleasure of serving with a few). FDNF Squidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-82966032743105056172011-06-24T01:40:44.000-04:002011-06-24T01:40:44.000-04:00Will do, they seem to have the shortest line for a...Will do, they seem to have the shortest line for a CAC card these days, so two birds with one stone. Plus, they seem to be having some trouble with supposedly dedicated frequencies and garage door openers along the coast for a modern example of common wave travel. I would like to take him to the Potomac for a demonstration of how the concept of radar was first realized on this side of the water. The Navy may be down in some ways, but it only takes a look over to the docks at North Island to see what they do exceptionally well. guestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-79557084508003797272011-06-24T01:21:42.000-04:002011-06-24T01:21:42.000-04:00you can take him to Top Side/Sea Side SSC PAC on t...you can take him to Top Side/Sea Side SSC PAC on top of Point Loma. He might be fascinated by the bronze scale models along the fence at Sea Side. They are about 5 feet in from the fence. He might wonder about those gigantic structures where things were hung for EM testing back in the day.guestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-87120630591001895732011-06-24T00:55:09.000-04:002011-06-24T00:55:09.000-04:00DB, I wish. One that I could teach them something...DB, I wish. One that I could teach them something useful. They need to talk to my bosses, some very skilled and imaginative people out there. too bad they don't work for Austral. Secondly, I wish; my job had been to evaluate how the Navy teaches, but my bad, I started too late and in the wrong field. I have a very young son however, and perhaps, he will be interested in engineering and the science thereof. Experiments with dissimilar metals and electrical currents should be a fun visual lesson. Once he is seven years of age and has mastered that process, we can go on to hull design. Jimmy's down in Point Loma has some beutiful half hulls and perhaps we can visit the yard and see an LCS hauled out for maitenance. Snark off. guestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-40247802324767874622011-06-24T00:24:19.000-04:002011-06-24T00:24:19.000-04:00Guest... thanks for the input. Comments here are ...Guest... thanks for the input. Comments here are read carefully, I can assure you.<br /><br />Stick around. Big Navy will need the likes of you someday!<br /><br />They'll come begging for you to teach something useful.<br /><br />Mark my word.DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-55041426420316399802011-06-24T00:07:36.000-04:002011-06-24T00:07:36.000-04:00Wow, someone read my comment. Sorry to drop the b...Wow, someone read my comment. Sorry to drop the bomb and run, but I"m on the far coast from most of you all and I'm not in a position to say my name or why I was at the school. As a former engineering guy, un-liscenced in the Merchant Marine and experienced in allied but shore side engineering fields, I have a formed a pratical idea of what it takes to teach the basics of the engine and associated parts at the most basic level. The Navy may have another school that I didn't see, but someone please tell me if there is a school of basic skills as in; this is a flywheel, this is an impellor, etc before dumping these young men and women on the fleet. I respect and value to my heart, the United States Navy and all that it does, but somehow, the basics of the one side that I can intelligently evaluate seems to have been dumped by the wayside in search of a false god, that ellusive business model of perfection and efficiency. How efficient can it be; to teach a young person how to strip a pump, or trouble shoot smoke in the exhaust? It is not and cannot be efficiently done, but teaching those skills is not without value, actually the skill set is priceless. How have we come so far as a nation of workers from this realization.guestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-60348094362243759662011-06-23T23:33:37.000-04:002011-06-23T23:33:37.000-04:00But...but.... I'm a woman! I wanna be mentore...But...but.... I'm a woman! I wanna be mentored! Mentor MEEEEEE! (preferably over a steak dinner and a glass of Latroun)<br /><br />Personally I think it's a trap to get people to misbehave so they can be removed from command. Like huntin' in a baited field. Don't fall fer it, silly geese!<br /><br /><br />Have they specified the boundaries of "mentoring?" What is good mentoring and what is bad mentoring? Does it have to be in the open or can it be done in the stateroom?<br /><br />/sarc<br /><br />If you can't tell.. I think this has "bad idea for obvious reasons" written all over it....DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-4859831797958000722011-06-23T23:04:46.000-04:002011-06-23T23:04:46.000-04:00<span><span>Include a diversity compon...<span><span>Include a diversity component that fosters the mentoring of minorities and women.</span> F that, from one more angry white male. </span><br /><span></span><br /><span>Neither my ancestors, nor I, did anything to deserve being excluded. All you decision making toadies in positions of influence that sneak onto the porch from your non DOD PC's...This is WRONG! Resist. Protest. Ignore. Marginalize the diversity nazis at the highest levels. And get back to training and war fighting. </span>DM05noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-84510396291306651152011-06-23T22:52:30.000-04:002011-06-23T22:52:30.000-04:00G Man I see things a little differently. The whit...G Man I see things a little differently. The whites are not kicking butt on promotions. Sailors get promoted in roughly the same number and rate as all years. Their race, as self reported, may lend itself to some meaningless demographic analyses. But in the end, this is not about "bringing the rest of the pack up to their speed," neigh. It is about making things "fair" by eliminating the merit from the selection criteria to ensure that politically acceptable numbers of certain self reported demographics are "represented" on the next promotions list. This is not about increasing talent. If it were, there would be no "Diversity Thursday." "Mentorship" is about assigning Racial Sea Daddies who will plow the roads. Officers are being selected at very junior ranks to ascend to flag so long as they do not have a major disciplinary malfunction. Their "Mentors" will plow the road for them.Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-10298753899951075512011-06-23T22:46:47.000-04:002011-06-23T22:46:47.000-04:00Don't worry about it. the former President of...Don't worry about it. the former President of the NOAA is now relegated to back bench note taking duty at most meetings I've seen him at. His opinion is neither desired nor required. I'm sure he still gets paid well though.<br /> When I first met him (back when I worked in the same company as him) and inquired about his bio which stated "president of NOAA" I said "Naval Officers Association of America, I think that sounds like an organization I'd like to join, Sir!" He just sniffled at me. Now I know why.Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-48166009985227241442011-06-23T21:13:40.000-04:002011-06-23T21:13:40.000-04:00The part that pisses me off to no end is that this...The part that pisses me off to no end is that this bull shit is being supported by my year group classmates. I am old enough that the 0-6's supporting this nonsense are some of my year group peers...WTF, over???<br /><br />This is NOT, I repeat NOT, the Navy I joined. Hell, it is not even the Navy I left as JO.<br /><br />Talk about an organization getting lost in the wilderness...Seannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-87438654678598050032011-06-23T14:09:10.000-04:002011-06-23T14:09:10.000-04:00And whoa be unto the CO who denies funding an Affi...And whoa be unto the CO who denies funding an Affinity-ite's attendance (because of some practical reason like it would kill the command budget)?Guestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-9055394643549552462011-06-23T10:35:53.000-04:002011-06-23T10:35:53.000-04:00This is all just another way of saying "the w...This is all just another way of saying "the whites are kicking butt on promotions and evaluations, so we gotta bring the rest of the pack up to their speed". Which does nothing but dump a huge disservice onto the minority that long ago figured out that some extra melanin didn't make them better - or worse - than anybody else, and that their success was because they studied, found their own mentor, out-performed their contemporaries and kicked butt - ON THEIR OWN. <br /><br />Affinity group is mis-spelled - should be ASSINITY GROUP.G-mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-73228056650165353922011-06-23T10:04:11.000-04:002011-06-23T10:04:11.000-04:00AFFINITY GROUP? WHO got a medal for THAT one?
I...AFFINITY GROUP? WHO got a medal for THAT one?<br /><br />I want an affinity group! Waah! To mentor clueless little viking dolls about milnonsense. Mentors! I need mentors! Anyone wanna sign up? $1 to sign up, $2 to quit!<br /><br />(This is especially disgusting after reading about the vacant training faciliities and empty classrooms for useful training in the other thread.)DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-72862397392076895112011-06-23T08:47:16.000-04:002011-06-23T08:47:16.000-04:00So skipper, you have a choice. Send a student to ...So skipper, you have a choice. Send a student to a school to learn how to fix a plane or an O4 to a confererence to prove you are supporting the CNO's goals & pad your fitrep.<br /><br />Looking forward to:<br />- New solgan: "Global force for diversity"<br />- Diversity Warfare Pin <br /><br />Sigh. Just another self licking ice cream cone.ExNFOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-87397482245238346362011-06-23T08:43:51.000-04:002011-06-23T08:43:51.000-04:00Diversity = Racism
Sign for the showers should go...Diversity = Racism<br /><br />Sign for the showers should go back up on ships.. it is what the Diversity bullies are pointing out and desire...MR T's Haircutnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-55513882274185779962011-06-23T07:18:13.000-04:002011-06-23T07:18:13.000-04:00The dude had diversity training (sent to the camp)...The dude had diversity training (sent to the camp) so it will all be ok. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/23/southwest-suspended-pilot-after-radio-rant/" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/23/southwest-suspended-pilot-after-radio-rant/</a>LT Bnoreply@blogger.com