tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post7422370160464016358..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: Severn SITREP II - Electric BoogalooCDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger92125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-69859056397441292082013-05-08T15:30:35.476-04:002013-05-08T15:30:35.476-04:00click here valium urine drug test - valium pill co...<a href="http://www.waynelevinimages.com/random/buyvaliumonline/index.php?page=8" rel="nofollow">click here</a> valium urine drug test - valium pill codeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-75607790245695077082010-09-11T16:01:35.000-04:002010-09-11T16:01:35.000-04:00that rack in the background of the video is unsat....that rack in the background of the video is unsat. fapconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-11385612482597851622010-09-10T14:13:56.000-04:002010-09-10T14:13:56.000-04:00On the other hand, Skippy, now they can't play...On the other hand, Skippy, now they can't play the "nobody told me / no one said I couldn't" game. They've been given very specific guidance & direction.<br /><br />While there will no doubt be those who -as you say- go overboard, they would be doing so with <i>any</i> rule you hand them. It's in their nature. The only solution is to have no rules. ;)Casey Tompkinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-61780270999656438622010-09-10T13:13:27.000-04:002010-09-10T13:13:27.000-04:00LT B, When I was a Mid the phrase was, "The m...LT B, When I was a Mid the phrase was, "The moral taught is don't get caught". Of course what went along with it was if you did get caught you told the truth and took your punishment like a man.C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-12073855915941219432010-09-10T11:52:26.000-04:002010-09-10T11:52:26.000-04:00All I know is, if the drinking age in S.C. had not...All I know is, if the drinking age in S.C. had not been 18-we would have been breaking the law every weekend! :)Skippy-sannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-14271826278358199552010-09-10T11:08:53.000-04:002010-09-10T11:08:53.000-04:00Fair statements, all. No disagreement.Fair statements, all. No disagreement.Phil Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-17309660681614847772010-09-10T10:50:59.000-04:002010-09-10T10:50:59.000-04:00But that is just the point-the Hatch act already l...But that is just the point-the Hatch act already lays out those kind of proscriptions on conduct already.<br /><br />The issue is that whole "represent the Navy"thing can get out of control. Like the CO who told me that I had to have his approval to publish an article in Proceedings. I ignored him and submitted my article anyway.<br /><br />What is troublesome to me is that the people who will execute this guidance will go overboard-they always do.Skippy-sannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-76487728533467197872010-09-10T10:39:24.000-04:002010-09-10T10:39:24.000-04:00FormerMid2010
thanks for your answer, and you sai...FormerMid2010<br /><br />thanks for your answer, and you said something that I think we've all been looking for someone to say-"we were all aware of the dangers of posting anything to a social networking site."<br /> That's certainly what I expect from any 18-25 yr old nowadays. I'm getting tired of these mids (and all people of this age, actually) being referred to as "children" or "young people". They are ADULTS, and should bear the responsibility that adults bear when they misbehave. They don't need handholding, they don't need costant mentoring, they need to be allowed to show their character so we can weed them out if the garden needs weeding.Warrant Divernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-86249700599794496152010-09-10T10:38:36.000-04:002010-09-10T10:38:36.000-04:00justamid, why bring up Rempt -- because while USNA...justamid, why bring up Rempt -- because while USNA was already moving towards the cliff, he gave the command of "flank emergency" to get it there as quickly as possible.<br /><br />Of course, any effort to bring back some semblance of military life is going to feel like the pendulum has gone to the other extreme, but consider where its coming from. I'm glad that 3-4 honor offenses doesn't fly anymore -- but I noted you didn't say 1 honor offense doesn't fly anymore. Let me know when that happens. What if a plebe lied to an upperclassman about whether he had shaved that day (even if the plebe probably didn't have enough facial hair to shave)? When I was there, separated; today . . . . Or how about lying re: PRT scores (and I don't care whether a 4/c or 1/c) . . .<br /><br />What wasn't reported in The Capital story was the separation rate for honor violations. I have the numbers at home, but it was something along the line that in 90/91 school year (or there about), of those who committed an honor violation, the separation rate was like 92% (a single midn was retained; all others were gone). If the numbers had been published and tracked, one could have seen the decline that was happening -- by the early 2000s, the separation rate for honor violation fell below 50% and kept getting lower.<br /><br />Why talk about Rempt -- because let's acknowledge that he, IMHO, lacked the courage to demand high standards; his first desire was to be liked by the midn (he wanted to be the midn's best friend, not the Supe) and so "anything goes". What message is sent by the Supe puttering around the Yard in a golf cart with a little admiral's flag flying from it -- how cute.Veritasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-41027005717372316852010-09-10T09:33:25.000-04:002010-09-10T09:33:25.000-04:00Warrant Diver,
This isn't the first guidance ...Warrant Diver,<br /><br />This isn't the first guidance that's been released on "social media." I can't quote you exact numbers, but when I was a mid I recall emails similar to that nature sent out at least once a year. We also had a mandatory brief presented on the appropriate use of social media a year or two ago. As I recall, it was focused on demonstrating to the Brigade just how easily accessible photos on Facebook can be. The presenter did a decent job; as we all filed into Alumni Hall, a PowerPoint displayed embarassing (and to be honest, rather hilarious) photos of college students that we later found out were all taken from midshipmen profiles.<br /><br />In my humble opinion, this isn't necessarily a failure of the Academy to properly educate on the correct use of social media. You can argue it's a failure of the Academy in other areas (and I'm not even going to wade into that discussion), but we were all aware of the dangers of posting anything to a social networking site.FormerMid2010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-88245528972870542232010-09-10T08:41:06.000-04:002010-09-10T08:41:06.000-04:00it's a brave new world, sir and we are buildin...it's a brave new world, sir and we are building the Global Farce for Good. Standards are not necessarily important as long as they are flexible and make everybody feel good about themselves. LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-86248072537415204552010-09-10T07:19:19.000-04:002010-09-10T07:19:19.000-04:00I always gave every sailor one shot. It wasn'...I always gave every sailor one shot. It wasn't free but they almost always got a second chance. I found that I never had the stomach for zero tolerance.Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-62893593177470437322010-09-10T03:04:16.000-04:002010-09-10T03:04:16.000-04:00"Guidance" and "...should not post&..."Guidance" and "...should not post"...give me a break! And the delivery man of this message is the PAO?! How about "order/regulation" and "....will not post" and the Commandant of Midshipmen sending the message! Clearly "this" didn't bother the leadership of USNA too bad, they'll just let the PAO take care of it...way to set the climate! This is the potential product sent to the fleet for my fellow CPOs and I to train...at least give me SOMETHING to work with. Anyone for a round of kumbaya? EMCMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-35548440846991633962010-09-10T02:50:51.000-04:002010-09-10T02:50:51.000-04:00justamid, Hope what you say is true and continues ...justamid, Hope what you say is true and continues over the long haul. This old timer has a tough time wrapping his mind around second chances for folks found guilty of honor offenses and plebes that refuse to drill.C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-62420202526208762212010-09-10T01:29:05.000-04:002010-09-10T01:29:05.000-04:00Not sure why anyone's bringing up Rempt. He...Not sure why anyone's bringing up Rempt. He's long gone.<br /><br />Notice the date on that article? That was from almost a year ago. In the meantime, we've completely changed the honor system (by an overwhelming brigade vote, mind you) and brought in a new Supe, Dant, and CMC. As with any change of command (especially all the senior leadership at one time and ESPECIALLY right after several ethical scandals), there's a whole new focus nowadays and it's-to borrow from Aladdin-a whole new world around here...trust me, 3 or 4 honor offenses doesn't fly anymore. A small part of me is tempted to say the pendulum has actually swung too far back the other way. We went from Fowler and "anything goes as long as the football team's winning" to a very by-the-book style of standards, standards, standards. I don't think it's bad, just different.<br /><br />Trust me, though, people are getting kicked out at a much higher rate and for much less than they did under Fowler. Talk to any mid.justamidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-85019136940919306782010-09-10T00:52:27.000-04:002010-09-10T00:52:27.000-04:00Honor Concept at USNA . . . under the past few Sup...Honor Concept at USNA . . . under the past few Supe's it's become practically non-existant. Misn commit multiple honor offenses. still retained (they just need more training on the importance of honor -- it's not the midn's fault -- it's the background from before the entered USNA - etc., BS, etc., BS<br /><br />I'll refer to you a special report from the Crabtown Wrapper:<br /><a href="http://www.hometownannapolis.com/news/nav/2009/11/01-24/Academy-honor-cases-focus-on-redemption-not-expulsion.html?ne=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.hometownannapolis.com/news/nav/2009/11/01-24/Academy-honor-cases-focus-on-redemption-not-expulsion.html?ne=1</a><br /><br />That should help explain why the rank-and-file alumni feel they way they do.Veritasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-28053758882540828032010-09-10T00:29:15.000-04:002010-09-10T00:29:15.000-04:00Yeah, I was wondering the same thing myself. '...Yeah, I was wondering the same thing myself. 'A few' is generally ((a few)-1) more honor violations than it's supposed to take to get kicked out, isn't it? I mean, it was at The Citadel. Does USNA not work that way?LT Rustynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-12653993345164029092010-09-10T00:08:12.000-04:002010-09-10T00:08:12.000-04:00And regarding Date rape and the like, I have been ...And regarding Date rape and the like, I have been a Training Officer in a major Naval Aviation Technical Training Center.. I cannot even count with your hands and my Hands the number of allegations after many manhours spent investigating the facts to determine that the allegations were false.... here is a thought, Be consistent with your expectations and treat everyone as adults instead of your self described "child" and hold ALL accountable..<br /><br />flame away big guy...MR T's Haircutnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-58072806285399028592010-09-10T00:04:43.000-04:002010-09-10T00:04:43.000-04:00<span>Phil,
Flame away.</span>
&l...<span>Phil, <br /> <br />Flame away.</span><br /><span></span><br /><span>I do not have a soft skin and I lack an even softer skin regarding our Navy. </span><br /><span></span><br /><span>I admire your tenacity but you are now showing yourself as an apologist for motives known only to you by your defense of the indefensible.</span><br /><span></span><br /><span>First off, my "Man up" comment was not directed at you.. it was directed at those you counsel and it was meant Gender Neutral. WHY is there an expectation that a Midshipmen or in other terms a "FUTURE OFFICER" would need more coddling and toucyh feely crap disguised as "mentoring" then the Sailors in the Fleet they would presume to LEAD? <br /> <br />Further, to equate the misbehavior of Senior leadership, including those in Command at Sea with the antics of these idiot midshipmen is laughable.. REALLY? Come on. .. Not even close.. you are cherry picking the argument. You are showing a fundemental lack of understanding at the deckplate level by your feeble attempt at drawing a moral equivalency.. Sorry, I am throwing the bullshit flag on you...</span>MR T's Haircutnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-15472224429122864732010-09-10T00:01:39.000-04:002010-09-10T00:01:39.000-04:00Phil,
Flame away, I do not have a soft skin and ...Phil, <br /><br />Flame away, I do not have a soft skin and I lack an even softer skin regardign our Navy. First off, my "Man up" comment was not directed at you.. it was directed at those you counsel and it was meant Gender Neutral. WHY is there an expectation that a Midshipmen or in other terms a "FUTURE OFFICER" would need more coddeling and touch feely crap disguised as "mentoring" then the Sailors in the Fleet they would presume to LEAD?<br /><br />Further, to equate the misbehavior of Senior leadership, including those in Command at Sea with the antics of these idiot midshipmen is laughable.. REALLY? Come on. .. Not even close.. you are cherry picking the argument. You are showing a fundemental lack of understanding at the deckplate level by your feeble attempt at drawing a moral equivalency.. Sorry, I am throwing the bullshit flag on you...MR T's Haircutnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-55189222295899472912010-09-09T23:15:05.000-04:002010-09-09T23:15:05.000-04:00Well, a mostly law abiding citizen. :)Well, a mostly law abiding citizen. :)LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-25072236570917431712010-09-09T23:02:09.000-04:002010-09-09T23:02:09.000-04:00Byron - Can you be so sure the "other option&...Byron - Can you be so sure the "other option" is even out there. I recognize and appreciate that both the Supe and the Dant are new, and that they inhereited a mess. But the history of the past decade does not leave one with a warm, fuzzy feeling. I will, of couse, give the benefit of the doubt (for now) to the Supe and Dant, and that they understand and appreciate the it is suppose to be a military institution, not simply a free college.Veritasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-39826701326922860782010-09-09T22:57:00.000-04:002010-09-09T22:57:00.000-04:00"A few honor offenses . . . " How many ..."A few honor offenses . . . " How many is "a few"? (Is it like "I only had a few beers"?) Also, do give details on the honor offenses -- I want to know the type of conduct that Rempt found acceptable in a midshipman.Veritasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-68330574624628688602010-09-09T21:44:24.000-04:002010-09-09T21:44:24.000-04:00That's kind of a quandry. It is one thing to ...That's kind of a quandry. It is one thing to suggest that all enter the maelstrom with fixed moral and ethical purpose and then to suppose that the very best way to accomplish this is to use pseudonyms. I completely screwed up ages ago and went with my real name and you should just see the email addresses I've had over the years. Cryptic they were not. Don't think I every referred to my .mil addresses.<br /><br />On the other hand back when I was on somewhat more focused duty I did use a pseudonym because just as you said, it was not my place to rabbit the USN. I was savage when discussing the historical stuff but we didn't do much about the current world other than to savage the geography, air force, submariners, pilots and trivial stuff like that. :) <br /><br />Oh, and SEALS!Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-50899601789578262472010-09-09T21:34:07.000-04:002010-09-09T21:34:07.000-04:00I support Phil R.
When you want to talk about im...I support Phil R. <br /><br />When you want to talk about imposing the moral strictures of society on usna again, who's morals? Oh dear, I'm a muslim and had an arranged marriage back when I was 11 why can't I attend? Just food for thought.<br /><br />You can see it now right? Ellison will appoint one of the child brides and it will turn ugly very quickly.<br /><br />Still, if we can arrange for departures from spec for football and basketball players why not for the rest of the crew.Curtisnoreply@blogger.com