tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post6398140228979702208..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: Well, you we could be Belgium ...CDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-54114107449886503902011-08-02T17:34:40.090-04:002011-08-02T17:34:40.090-04:00<span>'Putting your trust in Waloon Soci...<span>'Putting your trust in Waloon Socialists - the ones who are responsible for Flemish separatism.'</span><br /><span></span><br /><span>I like that line, and there's much truth in it. Indeed, if the Wallon socialists with their all-powerful baronies, cliques, unions and what non had not so thoroughly impoverished Wallonia over the past six decades, there would simply be no call for independence. The very call for ending the perennial flow of Flemish money to the south is the main motive of the VB's call for independence.</span><br /><span></span><br /><span>Belgium won't evaporate though, I've been saying for years that it ain't an artificial state. Flemings and Walloons are doomed to each other.</span>Outlaw Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-51462666247080996572011-08-02T17:31:02.625-04:002011-08-02T17:31:02.625-04:00ewok40k, indeed, the situation in Belgium is actua...ewok40k, indeed, the situation in Belgium is actually proof of the fact that limited government is good for a country. With only a caretaker government, the economy is humming fine, unemployment is down, economic growth over the last year 2.2% (compare that to Germany with 0.4%).Outlaw Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-24261755413938118602011-07-25T11:07:06.451-04:002011-07-25T11:07:06.451-04:00And now it looks like the max this guy can get is ...And now it looks like the max this guy can get is 21 years? What is that, 3 months per victim? I predict Norway is going to go through some major changes in the next 9-12 months...Aubreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-45946924305689779442011-07-24T20:40:27.981-04:002011-07-24T20:40:27.981-04:00ewok,
We seem to have some of the answer to the q...ewok,<br /><br />We seem to have <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/24/oslo-terror-attacks-leaky-police-boat_n_907986.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk3%7C80664" rel="nofollow">some of the answer to the question posited</a>. (And yes, a youth camp like that in the states would have a Law Enforcement presence or stand-by. True also of EMS.)<br /><br />Seems they waited for the special units to arrive. Something we learned at Columbine. There was much more risk in waiting. But it also seems to have been a tragedy of f*ck-ups.<br /><br />"<br />Critics within the police have long complained that the "Delta" anti-terrorism unit is short of transport capacity.<br />Berga said that when Oslo's Delta unit arrived at the pier across from Utoeya its leaders commandeered recreational boats to cross over.<br />Police sources said there had been much internal police debate over whether the first responders should have approached the island without waiting for the Oslo force.<br />Police released a timeline showing that the Hoenefoss police station first received reports of a shooting at 5:27 p.m. (11:27 a.m. EDT). Local officers arrived at a pier across the water from the island at 5:52 p.m., but had to "wait for a suitable boat."<br />From 6:09 p.m., when the specially equipped tactical police officers from Oslo arrived at the pier, it took 16 minutes for them to arrive on Utoeya, and only another two minutes before the gunman surrendered without resistance, the police said."UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-18609523619224513762011-07-24T11:02:38.000-04:002011-07-24T11:02:38.000-04:00there was NO security... do you expect armed secur...there was NO security... do you expect armed security at every youth camp? even in the US... and it was isolated island in the middle of a lake. a perfect trap.ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-81935694065913158932011-07-24T08:46:07.396-04:002011-07-24T08:46:07.396-04:00ewok,
No, I haven't joined the "tinfoil ...ewok,<br /><br />No, I haven't joined the "tinfoil brigade". I have been around long enough to remember when both European communists and European fascists were serious terror threats, and I am not sure they ever quite went away as we here were so eager to believe. The "help" I refer to would have been from others who helped plan or execute the attack. <br /><br />It takes some time to chase and kill 80+ people. Long enough for security to hear the shots and respond from a few hundred yards away. So my questions stand.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-85537949713026519992011-07-24T04:27:55.704-04:002011-07-24T04:27:55.704-04:00Blackfive has a nice article on the attack. explai...Blackfive has a nice article on the attack. explaining how it was executed... (what a bad pun) and you have officially joined the tinfoil hat brigade of "CIA blew up the twin towers", just from the other side of political spectrum...ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-70797197088147998542011-07-23T14:42:09.085-04:002011-07-23T14:42:09.085-04:00<span>Agreed, PK. Something stinks out lou...<span>Agreed, PK. Something stinks out loud. This guy was allowed on the island even though no police were expected to augment security? What did the security personnel on the island do when they heard the shots? Were they armed? Were they, or some of them, in on it? <br /> <br />By the way, European fascism may be new to the current generation, but it has been a recurring theme since the 1850s in one form or another. Longer than that, if you trace it from monarchist roots.</span>UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-84100947216606575062011-07-23T14:19:46.961-04:002011-07-23T14:19:46.961-04:00please tell me just how a single person killed 87 ...please tell me just how a single person killed 87 people. didn't some of them at least run.<br /><br />or did they hold his loaded magazines for when he needed them.<br /><br />perhaps he had help, and just precisely who was the "help".<br /><br /><br />bet at the most they will get 90 days messcooking as punishment!!!!!<br /><br />Cpknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-73806113057144281802011-07-23T13:29:47.587-04:002011-07-23T13:29:47.587-04:00he actually put up front as a farmer, or even was ...he actually put up front as a farmer, or even was one genuinely...ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-70971085108808214142011-07-23T10:42:35.016-04:002011-07-23T10:42:35.016-04:00This tread is so awesome. URR once again got prov...This tread is so awesome. URR once again got proven a fool. This is why you shouldn't be allowed near a weapon. You tend to shoot at your prejudices rather than the actual target. Why don't you ever post your delusional rantings over at USNI? Afraid your ideas might give the USNI a bad name? Hmmm.dURR!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-56948229511262922972011-07-23T10:14:25.473-04:002011-07-23T10:14:25.473-04:00No one stopped to ask why this non-farmer was buyi...No one stopped to ask why this non-farmer was buying 6 tons of fertilizer?DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-9101183640229471122011-07-23T10:06:28.792-04:002011-07-23T10:06:28.792-04:00well, it seems media industry more than any ideolo...well, it seems media industry more than any ideological motives or connections is digging the fact that he was a World of Warcraft player... so when next time you get news that there is shooting going on in Szczecin you can assume it is me gone nuts after too much MMO gaming and internet discussions with military guys on the net :P<br />And how is it possible S,Korea didnt blew up yet?<br />the world has officially gone mad...<br />seriously though the incident shows how much damage can well prepared lone wolf/small cell do, so keep that in mind when AQ getting forced out of the big actions into small cell/lone wolf territory is being touted as victory...ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-12945292491692494432011-07-23T08:48:47.264-04:002011-07-23T08:48:47.264-04:00Indeed, it looks like a lone crazy person. My sen...Indeed, it looks like a <b>lone</b> crazy person. My sentiments remain and those that would use this to ignore the Mohammedan "invasion" of Europe are whistling past a graveyard.Stunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-58237935164100990802011-07-23T08:30:11.340-04:002011-07-23T08:30:11.340-04:00And that justifies our own DHS portraying white mi...And that justifies our own DHS portraying white middle class men in this country as the likely terrorists? <br /><br />I do not think so. <br /><br />One prediction: It will be used by the Left in this country to further justify treating political opponents as security risks and national enemies. And they will use much the same logic you have.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-74997997538638577122011-07-23T03:22:13.353-04:002011-07-23T03:22:13.353-04:00So Monty Python has finally become reality: http:/...So Monty Python has finally become reality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-7698788490876426802011-07-23T02:39:04.282-04:002011-07-23T02:39:04.282-04:00It seems that in this case (Oslo) there is perfect...It seems that in this case (Oslo) there is perfect lack of Muslim involvement... main suspect arrested is collaborating with the police and surprise - he is tall blonde and describes himself as defender of christendom against muslims and the left...<br />Anyway lets pray for his 87 (so far counted) victims, mostly teenagers from camp on the island.ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-38413225208328848802011-07-23T00:22:18.053-04:002011-07-23T00:22:18.053-04:00Well...
While the Belgians may not have an electe...Well...<br /><br />While the Belgians may not have an elected government, they do have so timeless qualities to tide them over...<br /><br />Chocolate. Lace.<br /><br /><a href="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6142/5965560793_b9510e9c46_z.jpg" rel="nofollow">And that whole dusky, sultry, Flemish Chic thing goin' on...</a><br /><br />Those Spaniards sure did leave some enduring genes....<br /><br />Just sayin' 8-)sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-27187294599177943652011-07-22T23:45:24.938-04:002011-07-22T23:45:24.938-04:00Anyone who doesn't realize that the Mohammedan...Anyone who doesn't realize that the Mohammedans are still fighting the same war that caused the West to initial launch the Crusades isn't paying attention. Let's hope that Europe isn't so immersed in modernist, secular thought to such an extent that they are incapable of realizing this before it is too late. Stunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-74212008718057668582011-07-22T21:07:49.692-04:002011-07-22T21:07:49.692-04:00When I took the SO to Belgium two years ago-she ma...When I took the SO to Belgium two years ago-she marveled at how flat the country was. I told her, "Yes, that is why the Germans liked invading through it." She shook her head in disbelief-such was her ignorance of WW-II. That said-I think the French influence will keep Belgium from going any where else but where it is now.Skippy-sannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-12088651542564092912011-07-22T17:59:49.152-04:002011-07-22T17:59:49.152-04:00And I would have no trouble believing that McVeigh...And I would have no trouble believing that McVeigh had a ME accomplice in that truck with him.AW1 Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-38873245162462197512011-07-22T17:40:25.766-04:002011-07-22T17:40:25.766-04:00Bruce is good people, BTW.Bruce is good people, BTW.CDR Salamandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-82823130414013194512011-07-22T14:59:26.301-04:002011-07-22T14:59:26.301-04:00Ahem, most of the cases are single homicides, not ...Ahem, most of the cases are single homicides, not deserving terror label... if we count every skinhead/KKK/abortion clinic attack we can muster more in the "proof" of "wave of white rightist attacks". Add to this leftists attacks like Weathermen, all kinds of ethnic mobsters and we can "prove" terror links to anyone. The largest attack was 9/11 but Oklahoma City is second largest one until today. Radical islam is the main threat, but far from only one present. Of course portrayal of suspects in the DHS vid is biased, but they had no real choice as threat of court case makes any sort of profiling next to impossible. If you can do better in reality of court lawfare, I'd be glad to see it.ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-27531263132390669092011-07-22T14:28:00.240-04:002011-07-22T14:28:00.240-04:00So a single exception out of nearly 70 means the o...So a single exception <a href="http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm" rel="nofollow">out of nearly 70 means the others don't matter</a>?<br /><br />Let me paraphrase: It isn't like those 67 attacks on American soil accounting for nearly 3,100 lives over forty years were perpetrated by white men.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-67061895606400516662011-07-22T13:59:31.464-04:002011-07-22T13:59:31.464-04:00Bruce Bawer, now living in Norway, wrote a book ab...Bruce Bawer, now living in Norway, wrote <a href="http://www.amazon.com/While-Europe-Slept-Radical-Destroying/dp/0767920058/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1311357527&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">a book </a>about this several years ago.andrewdbnoreply@blogger.com