tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post5099307204738998076..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: Suisun Bay will make you soberCDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-56193265692643860222012-10-23T06:18:32.299-04:002012-10-23T06:18:32.299-04:00Hey, that's Belknap . My cousin was a Marine...Hey, that's Belknap . My cousin was a Marine aboard JFK that day (which was, ironically 22 Nov). He has some incredible stories about lifesaving efforts. DC professionals should always heed....Whitneyhttp://shawngstraubr.posterous.com/alternative-and-natural-treatments-for-a-yeasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-40304978639449466022011-07-28T20:46:51.173-04:002011-07-28T20:46:51.173-04:00Sid snark all you want, you are
a) not going to ch...Sid snark all you want, you are<br />a) not going to change the way the WORLD and DOD ships their cargo. and<br /><br />b) DOD planners now have pretty much adopted use of containers for most wartime movements. If you go look at the military vehicle pub it is replete with container handling equipment for land, sea and air use. That has pros and cons but that is the way of the world<br /><br />So suck it up, containers are here to stay.leeseanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-23276817974387466592011-07-22T10:27:58.838-04:002011-07-22T10:27:58.838-04:00James, if you put a 16 inch shell on target someon...James, if you put a 16 inch shell on target someone might get <em>hurt</em>!<br /><br />That is neither transformational, nor being a global force for good...Aubreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-27187179335081041662011-07-21T18:31:35.933-04:002011-07-21T18:31:35.933-04:00Heaven forbid that DoD does something that mimics ...Heaven forbid that DoD does something that mimics industry but is entirely inappropriate for the exigencies of war fighting. ("Just-in-time" ammo resupply, mister Battalion Commander in contact with the enemy?)<br /><br />Containerized carriage will work fine in most places, but where it won't work, it REALLY won't work.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-42843294437310016672011-07-21T17:37:42.715-04:002011-07-21T17:37:42.715-04:00<span>Container ships sat at the most northe...<i><span>Container ships sat at the most northern ports during DS/S, I belive they were the two... </span></i><br /><br />Yep...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent1?file=NI_Scuds_1202" rel="nofollow">They got lucky...</a><br /><br />Wouldn't count on it next time.<br /><br /><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Bombay-Docks-aftermath1.png" rel="nofollow">Might turn out right "sub-optimal"</a>sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-45015255846894025662011-07-21T17:29:57.675-04:002011-07-21T17:29:57.675-04:00<span>But all that cargo is now on container...<i><span>But all that cargo is now on containers ships for several reasons.</span></i><br /><br />"Cost Effective" "Optimal" for <span><i><b>routine peacetime</b></i></span> reasons I'm sure....sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-45475126507513826372011-07-21T17:20:28.434-04:002011-07-21T17:20:28.434-04:00Oh yea thats a beautiful ship on the end there.......Oh yea thats a beautiful ship on the end there......<br /><br />Be a shame if it had been off the coast of tripoli a few months ago better its there doing nothing.Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-57442361212034283422011-07-21T11:12:51.576-04:002011-07-21T11:12:51.576-04:00GPB good post, perhaps the confusion is that the M...GPB good post, perhaps the confusion is that the MARAD RRF ships switch OPCON to COMSC when activated. Another thing to throw into the mix is that the RRF has being shrunk for the past 5 years or so. No new/converted sealfit ships have been funded.<br /><br />And just to muddy the waters more, there is a proposal to transfer ALL RRF ships from MARAD to MSC (where they will be kept in better material condition).<br /><br />I wonder how long the old amphibs going into NIMSF will stay there before being relegated to lower life in MARADs' NDRF?leeseanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-28217772689077519972011-07-21T07:26:30.541-04:002011-07-21T07:26:30.541-04:00Self-like will make you go blind.Self-like will make you go blind.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-15498242659734404212011-07-21T03:51:15.945-04:002011-07-21T03:51:15.945-04:00erm... what is the chinese for "Kido butai&qu...erm... what is the chinese for "Kido butai"?ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-67542856341959068862011-07-21T02:21:57.595-04:002011-07-21T02:21:57.595-04:00What a heep of junk. I am glad my President is cl...What a heep of junk. I am glad my President is cleaening this up. Thank you Mr. President.DrTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-51033401296922397732011-07-21T00:13:40.056-04:002011-07-21T00:13:40.056-04:00LASH ships were the heavy haulers of ammo in APF. ...LASH ships were the heavy haulers of ammo in APF. C-9s had 26,000 cdwt and over 10 million lbs NEW. But all that cargo is now on containers ships for several reasons.leeseanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-22887744697721729832011-07-21T00:11:18.980-04:002011-07-21T00:11:18.980-04:00then why have ALL DOD services switched their ammo...then why have ALL DOD services switched their ammo lifts to containerized carriage? Only breakbuld at sea is in NFAF ships for USNleeseanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-16718340758631253052011-07-21T00:09:19.810-04:002011-07-21T00:09:19.810-04:00the commercial ships made up to makeshift piers we...the commercial ships made up to makeshift piers were unloading containers about three days after the earthquake. IF SOUTHCOM and TRANSCOM had got their heads screwed on right, there would have been a full JLOTS op going on in only 7 days in PaP.leeseanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-7888731528305510022011-07-21T00:06:42.248-04:002011-07-21T00:06:42.248-04:00Container ships sat at the most northern ports dur...Container ships sat at the most northern ports during DS/S, I belive they were the two T-AVBs of MARADleeseanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-5219683216653942352011-07-21T00:03:04.160-04:002011-07-21T00:03:04.160-04:00and NOW TRANSCOM has been given the responsiblity ...and NOW TRANSCOM has been given the responsiblity to define sealift ship rqmts (# and type) a job the US Navy used to have but hell our Navy is much interested in the sealift mission its put in ppts.<br /><br />The sources of ships for DS/S were mostly active US and foreign fleets. The source for most OIF sealift ships is fromt MARAD's RRF with miscellaneous foreign flag charters.<br /><br />A coupe of USNS were broken out or kept in ROS longer (T-AO and T-AE/AFS) just a few.leeseanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-79663030611880840522011-07-20T23:56:11.509-04:002011-07-20T23:56:11.509-04:00right on, there have been numerous studies about w...right on, there have been numerous studies about where the USN is going to find merchant mariners who can a) operate steam plants, b) have the right license to operate newer diesels, c) are in sufficient numbers to operate all the MARAD RRF and NDRF ships needed by the oplans. <br />So like Sal said we will have to go to war with what we got and little else from the reserve fleets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-32751594247601475962011-07-20T22:05:00.584-04:002011-07-20T22:05:00.584-04:00why do we have so similar thoughts? 8-)
in one th...why do we have so similar thoughts? 8-) <br />in one thing LCS is similar to a carrier - if a pair of Sea Cobras is embarked it carries more firepower than the ship itself...ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-45208734838545379252011-07-20T20:02:28.128-04:002011-07-20T20:02:28.128-04:00The agency holding the bag on this one isn't M...The agency holding the bag on this one isn't MSC. It's MARAD.<br /><br />The money for keeping a string on the real merchant vessels goes through them, I believe.<br /><br />Of course, it would be best to use them at need once we get them on the the string. The big RORO's used to deploy the second echelon ground and air forces are kept on 3-5 day breakout in various ports, and broken out in readiness exercises/hurricane sorties often enough. The first echelon is in the prepo squadrons, manned and at anchor (the term of Art is black hulls) in forward locations off the beaten path. The ships to be taken up from trade, to borrow the briticism, are liners in trade, pretty much (no, I don't mean passenger ships). The prepo and ready reserve are the deployment ships. US flag ships in trade backfill. Then there are the big shipping companies under flags of convenience, usually happy for the work (note the assumption). The reserve fleet ships are/were assumed to be for fleet expansion/combat loss replacement pending new construction, mostly. The Corps hides some odd ducks in the covey, on the cheap which they can get at quick, and are quiet about it. <br /><br />Fleet expansion is where the real problem is, Fukayama's Error Syndrome. No Knoxes, No Spruances, No steam FF's, pretty damn soon no Auxiliaries or Amphibs.<br /><br />Since we can go back and punish them for long ago errors, doubtless some of the Admirals from the 90's will get buried below Flag Rank once we deal with 2 years of defeat and a year stalemate before the 5 years we need to win back what we lost and then defeat the enemy. At best.Grandpa Bluewater.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-57046284387430941912011-07-20T19:33:16.535-04:002011-07-20T19:33:16.535-04:00It all depends on how scared the pols are, and who...It all depends on how scared the pols are, and who gets to play Henry J. Kaiser, and who gets to play Sen Harry S. Truman chairing the war mobilization effectiveness committee.<br /><br />First you have to 1. Declare war. and 2. Declare M day. and 3. Appoint the Director of Mobilization with plenipotentary powers (for the duration).<br /><br />The pendulum never stops swinging. It's well past center in the wrong direction now. The price is going to be hideous.Grandpa Bluewater.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-18789739058359449332011-07-20T17:58:00.165-04:002011-07-20T17:58:00.165-04:00Perhaps the BFI management technique. Brute Force...Perhaps the BFI management technique. Brute Force and Ignorance? UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-85541622985769735632011-07-20T17:43:02.133-04:002011-07-20T17:43:02.133-04:00Thats why MARAD underwrote the Lash ships Way back...Thats why MARAD <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighter_aboard_ship" rel="nofollow">underwrote the Lash ships Way back When</a>....sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-32327899639703780482011-07-20T16:50:23.810-04:002011-07-20T16:50:23.810-04:00Well someone needs to tell TRANSCOM that because t...Well someone needs to tell TRANSCOM that because they still think that since the world is in containers, that is how everything is supposed to be packed away. I also remember going fishing amongst the James River RRF back around the late 90's and early '00's and seeing ships that still used the old hatch and cargo net process of cargo handling with plenty of cargo booms hanging off of them. All of them looking rusted and unloved.SouthernAPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-28474402499573841242011-07-20T16:48:39.408-04:002011-07-20T16:48:39.408-04:00Sal. Im disapointed in you you still havnt figured...Sal. Im disapointed in you you still havnt figured it out.<br /><br />The point is to weakin the US. War is considered the enemy and the idea that one nation can enforce its values and that of the free world without the rest of the planets permission is viewed as horrifying.<br /><br />So how do you stop this? Simple make them unable to use that military power by corrupting the most effective military sense the Legions and destroying the excess military and economic power that makes the weapons of war.<br /><br />Remember the Obama administration and much of europe is Liberal. What do they blame for crime? Guns, Harsh feelings, capitalism........not people. So in their view if they destroy the US ability to wage war they stop wars and FORCE the US to obey world opinion.<br /><br />Just something i've been thinking about for awhile now...........it strays to much to the realm of the plausible for me to be comfortable.Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-10253035805272381952011-07-20T16:27:14.292-04:002011-07-20T16:27:14.292-04:00<span>also, anyone can remember the end of U...<span><em>also, anyone can remember the end of USS Langley... <br /></em></span><br /><span><em></em></span><br /><span><a href="http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h92000/h92472.jpg" rel="nofollow">Repeat of the pic above</a></span><br /><span></span><br /><span><strong>Definitely </strong>suboptimal....</span>sidnoreply@blogger.com