tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post4500044190807525297..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: If Admiral Harvey could ask, "WTF, over!" ...CDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-23406943038585222932011-04-30T17:27:29.838-04:002011-04-30T17:27:29.838-04:00 Not sure I agree that your definition of "ba... <em>Not sure I agree that your definition of "battlemindedness" encompasses everything that I think it should.</em><br /><em></em><br />First off...Please tell me what "my" definition is, and what is lacking. <br /><br />(<em>guess I'm "ignorant" on that score too</em>)<br /><br />And what else it should encompass?sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-75542510719321242542011-04-30T16:21:50.930-04:002011-04-30T16:21:50.930-04:00Oh...
And what Nimitz had to say about events in ...Oh...<br /><br />And what Nimitz had to say about events in the lste summer of '42.sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-10162287630433878072011-04-30T16:13:59.208-04:002011-04-30T16:13:59.208-04:00See if you can find references to the "Hepbur...See if you can find references to the "Hepburn Report" Ben.sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-56822880285091812302011-04-30T08:20:18.331-04:002011-04-30T08:20:18.331-04:00Pictures of Mike Murphy start showing up earlier t...Pictures of Mike Murphy start showing up earlier than that. Not sure I agree that your definition of "battlemindedness" encompasses everything that I think it should.B. Walthropnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-30881377130723068062011-04-30T05:22:18.037-04:002011-04-30T05:22:18.037-04:00<span>ANCHOR UP OFFICERS!!!!</span><b><span>ANCHOR UP OFFICERS!!!!</span></b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-65110723414554214162011-04-29T23:48:25.055-04:002011-04-29T23:48:25.055-04:00I am being generous....the point is they aint lead...I am being generous....the point is they aint leadersFormer Navynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-15448744427209910962011-04-29T22:12:09.969-04:002011-04-29T22:12:09.969-04:00You're absolutely right, Skippy-san. At a rec...You're absolutely right, Skippy-san. At a recent visit to one of the Norfolk commands, ADM Harvey seemed almost proud of his role in the recent firings. Our people have been placed in a very tough leadership environment, and all these firings are obviously an effort to create a climate of fear as a means of keeping people in line.Guestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-69570103307119416482011-04-29T19:28:57.012-04:002011-04-29T19:28:57.012-04:00No, no Byron! A catalyst is necessary for the rea...No, no Byron! A catalyst is necessary for the reaction. Testosterone causes much stupidity all on its own. <br /><br />But when mixed with estrogen, it is like hydrogen peroxide and potassium permanganate. Testosterone mixed with estrogen leads to bigger, faster, much more dramatic stupidity.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-29573142824154819062011-04-29T19:24:51.328-04:002011-04-29T19:24:51.328-04:00Silly Marine, estrogen isn't an accelerant, it...Silly Marine, estrogen isn't an accelerant, it's a catylist :)Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-61447830767935040782011-04-29T19:15:17.689-04:002011-04-29T19:15:17.689-04:00Estrogen is an accelerant...Estrogen is an accelerant...UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-76945746310186192212011-04-29T19:10:17.811-04:002011-04-29T19:10:17.811-04:00Testosterone =The Wolrd's Most Destructive Dru...Testosterone =The Wolrd's Most Destructive Drugsidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-53652873573828914082011-04-29T17:58:05.173-04:002011-04-29T17:58:05.173-04:00Skippy, Especially agree with with the "...do...Skippy, Especially agree with with the "...do it all on television" comment. Back in the day COs were generally fired quietly unless something spectacular (think BELKNAP/JFK) occurred and somebody died. Even in a lot of those cases, like the LEAHY grounding, the CO was removed quietly, the word got around the waterfront, and the incident was used as a case study at PCO school. Even in "inappropriate relationships" this was the case unless the violation was especially blatant, the CO's relief was "accelerated" and little was heard about it outside of the E-Ring grapevine. I had a former CO who was relieved as CO of a major WESTPAC shore command for that reason in the late '70s. He returned to a series of DC jobs until he retired at 30.C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-86572483607574594492011-04-29T17:42:53.794-04:002011-04-29T17:42:53.794-04:00Salty,
Relax, take a breath, move away from the k...Salty,<br /><br />Relax, take a breath, move away from the keyboard..... We will all come out of this okay....<br /><br />My point is this, Salty. The paradigm of multiple channels for complaining to senior and even flag officers has been well established, along with the readily listening ear. <br /><br />Not only that, but that the XO or CMC (SgtMaj) is expected to actively tattle behind the CO's back. <br /><br />I read some of the stuff on CDR Jones. Why, after Graf, would it surprise you that she would have been protected because she was a female? And in today's climate, even more so by being a lesbian? I would be a tad surprised if it had been otherwise. <br /><br />Do you like me again, Salty? ;)UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-89382790133653388242011-04-29T16:54:19.750-04:002011-04-29T16:54:19.750-04:00URR, NOT EVEN CLOSE.
STOP STOP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...URR, NOT EVEN CLOSE.<br />STOP STOP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP. CDR Jones is not a victim here. Read the message traffic on the SIPR site. There are.......suggestions.........of other untoward behavior that resembles what got some other people relieved.<br />I'm going to piss off AR now, and please forgive me if it sounds personal ma'am. You cannot be above the law. CDR Jones has conducted herself as above the law on ships for as long as she has served. She has gotten away with it because of questions about her sexual orientation and people not wanting to to get mired from going after her. I will leave it at that.Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-2226025492513327022011-04-29T16:50:52.403-04:002011-04-29T16:50:52.403-04:00AR, "as for mishandling a weapon, that seems ...AR, "as for mishandling a weapon, that seems like piling on...how often does the Navy get range time?"<br /><br />WTF?!<br /><br />Why was a CO even handling a weapon?! During a Security Alert, most ships assign a Sailor or two to guard the CO. If she is not comfortable or capable with a weapon, what the F was she doing with it? You have to be KIDDING ME. You do NOT point a weapon at anything you do not INTEND TO DESTROY. <br /><br />Holy Cow! You spiked my BP...........Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-15817937310979342322011-04-29T16:48:20.444-04:002011-04-29T16:48:20.444-04:00AR, why, because she enlisted first? Did you serv...AR, why, because she enlisted first? Did you serve with CJ onboard a ship or ashore?Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-47617519361793656712011-04-29T16:46:16.819-04:002011-04-29T16:46:16.819-04:00One of the best leadership development experiences...One of the best leadership development experiences for the JO I personally believe is to run a VBSS Team. You are responsible for the training, readiness, manning selection, gear maintenance and the execution of specific operations where it is just you and your team aboard someone else's ship. Sure you have Dad or Mom in your ear, but it is, by instruction, you who makes the calls.Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-75877632717255369022011-04-29T15:46:39.891-04:002011-04-29T15:46:39.891-04:00(not sure where this one went)
Here is a search o...(<i>not sure where this one went</i>)<br /><br />Here is a search of <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=%22US+Navy+Mission%22&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1137&bih=592&uss=1" rel="nofollow">"US Navy Mission"</a><br /><br />Right Curious...sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-29693237443101957232011-04-29T14:43:18.504-04:002011-04-29T14:43:18.504-04:00<span>Huh. Would be interesting, if even p...<span>Huh. Would be interesting, if even possible, to do a similar search of the PLA Navy's mission, read what they deem important, and compare and contrast. <br /> <br />I seen the pictures, and they don't seem very diverse....</span>UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-40245244459726703112011-04-29T14:42:57.846-04:002011-04-29T14:42:57.846-04:00Here is "US Navy Mission"
Right curious...Here is <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=%22US+Navy+Mission+%22&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&wrapid=tlif130410248596010&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1013&bih=497" rel="nofollow">"US Navy Mission"</a><br /><br />Right curious...sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-84132072177797863452011-04-29T14:36:47.488-04:002011-04-29T14:36:47.488-04:00no, I was referring to those making the placement ...no, I was referring to those making the placement decisions.actus rhesusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-4599447272500480682011-04-29T14:36:34.141-04:002011-04-29T14:36:34.141-04:00Yea,
A Ensign is supposed to learn how to run a d...Yea,<br /><br />A Ensign is supposed to learn how to run a division on a ship. That can have tween 40-50 people assigned to it. He is also supposed to be taught by the CPO how to be a good and fair JO. See my comment about about how the CPO's are failing in the leadership roles just as much as the Officers. One just doesn't always have leadership potential innate in their body, it is something that needs to be learned from watching both good and bad.SouthernAPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-84483397221031952942011-04-29T14:30:01.115-04:002011-04-29T14:30:01.115-04:00sorry...me again.sorry...me again.sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-21253399341856134442011-04-29T14:26:03.269-04:002011-04-29T14:26:03.269-04:00I think that Lex is right on the money in his anal...I think that Lex is right on the money in his analysis of the problem and that the Navy leadership needs to do a top to bottom review of the process by which an officer rises to command. Somewhere along the line the ideal has been lost that when one assumes command that they are being <b>given the responsibility</b> for the care of one of the nation's warships and her crew r<b>ather than a reward</b> for good performance. This would involve a clear eyed investigation of the command selection process and the training of prospective commanding officers.<br /><br />Some of this stuff, like collisions and groundings, is always going to happen due to mental lapses, bad judgement, and the failure of a subordinate. Being relieved for inappropriate relationships, bullying of subordinates, and DUI is inexcusable. It's no secret that these are wrong and have been for some time.C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-17924530582317602902011-04-29T14:23:45.114-04:002011-04-29T14:23:45.114-04:00"<span>Call me a cynic, or call me som..."<span>Call me a cynic, or call me someone who knows the personality of the accused, but I smell a whiner who couldn't handle high OPTEMPO and had access to a POTS line."</span><br /><br />Sounds a lot like Captain Honors' situation, dunnit?UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.com