tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post2859833153308284127..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: Sunday FunniesCDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-3486099968744178052010-11-22T19:24:19.000-05:002010-11-22T19:24:19.000-05:00You are right. I misspoke. What I should have do...You are right. I misspoke. What I should have done is word it more to the tune of "Those of us over here..." But I will say this - it's only human nature for the participants in this conflict to agree with it and its so-called objectives. Everyone wants their work and their sacrifices to have meaning, and the same with the mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters of the dead or wounded - maybe most don't want to consider it anything but the noblest of causes. but as you start to get some separation...you get more and more people saying WTF? Why? I remember the LBJ quote about sending American boys to do someone else's job....<br /><br />I hate this war because of the American public's attitude towards it. We don't act like a country at war. People over there are fighting and dying and the people here care far more about American F***** Idol and what Anne Hathaway wore last night. OK, rant over. Time for a long cool bourbon.speknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-87429278353720308592010-11-22T17:43:12.000-05:002010-11-22T17:43:12.000-05:00Dunno who let you out. But Sharia law would take ...Dunno who let you out. But Sharia law would take care of that, wouldn't it?UltiimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-52888625799861824652010-11-22T17:28:39.000-05:002010-11-22T17:28:39.000-05:00my bad. I will report to the nearest re-education...my bad. I will report to the nearest re-education center forthwith to be sure that I don't ever make the mistake of assuming I have the ability to process information, gather life experiences, and reach my own conclusions on issues.<br /><br />Hell, who let me out of the kitchen in the first place?Actus Rhesusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-51223692796636624012010-11-22T17:17:27.000-05:002010-11-22T17:17:27.000-05:00"<span>There is a war to win." Go..."<span>There is a war to win." Good luck with that one. Do us all a favor and define "win" in quantifiable terms. </span><br /><br /><span><span>I love that people give Bush credit for the "surge" but no blame for getting us into the position that required a "surge." How many fewer causalities would there be if we did it right the first time? Here's an idea, don't invade a country without an endgame in mind. I guess it's easier to hand it off to the next guy and then blame them for the problems.</span></span><br /><br />Go write a book if you want to. Who is holding you back? You talk about using correct terminology and mention the made up phrase "Bush derangement syndrom"? People that talk about "BDS" have the same credibility as a 8 year old on the playground, so it looks like you'd probably be writing fiction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-12617282390304858232010-11-22T16:53:43.000-05:002010-11-22T16:53:43.000-05:00But Mullen proves you can stay in the Navy and run...But Mullen proves you can stay in the Navy and run for office! UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-64518746799606232812010-11-22T16:51:48.000-05:002010-11-22T16:51:48.000-05:00AR,
You KNOW you're uninformed. Hell, the en...AR,<br /><br />You KNOW you're uninformed. Hell, the entire electorate must be. Just look at the Mid-terms. They just didn't UNDERSTAND the Obama agenda. And he blames himself, because he should have realized how difficult it was to cast pearls before the swine. <br /><br />So let's break out Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky, and The Audacity of Hope, and educate ourselves. That is, if we have the moral and intellectual capacity. Which is in question.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-83927507805219344262010-11-22T16:48:57.000-05:002010-11-22T16:48:57.000-05:00So quit the Navy, and run for office. Both sides ...So quit the Navy, and run for office. Both sides play politics, it's what they do. Seems like the discussion has shifted to cutting military funding since R's won the House, but I'm sure that's just coincidence.... or something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-64237030745497960282010-11-22T16:48:27.000-05:002010-11-22T16:48:27.000-05:00Not saying you don't have a right to pass any ...Not saying you don't have a right to pass any judgment you desire. But to make such a declarative statement as you did is with the knowing implication that anyone who served over there MUST agree with you. Because they all likely know someone who died. <br /><br />So your statement is false. Most of those I served with, the vast majority, disagree with you. <br /><br />For you to insist that your statement is true is extremely arrogant. I don't go around telling everyone how they were supposed to feel about Vietnam. Wasn't there. Have my own analysis. But would never ever tell a veteran of that war that "anyone who knew someone who died must agree with me".UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-61194328463612658842010-11-22T16:33:29.000-05:002010-11-22T16:33:29.000-05:00The difference is, I accept taxes as necessary evi...The difference is, I accept taxes as necessary evil to recieve the services I desire and have a right to expect from government. My taxes will go up when and if the Bush tax cuts expire. I accept that and hope the tax cuts do expire. You raise taxes when you need to balance a budget and cannot make the cuts that are required. Wait till the Catfood Commission recommendations are adopted and you lose your home mortgage deduction-your taxes will go up then.<br /><br />It will of course solve the 40% don't pay federal taxes idea though. (P.S. the proper number who pay federal income tax is 62% and it rises to 89.9% when all other federal taxes are factored in).Skippy-sannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-24311662917241585782010-11-22T16:26:57.000-05:002010-11-22T16:26:57.000-05:00Intersting, but I don't see how you can state ...Intersting, but I don't see how you can state that no one but the participants are qualified to question the validity of a war. Then wouldn't it be human nature to shine the best light on said conflict? Are you saying that I am incapable of passing judgement on the Civil War, not because I haven't reserached it thoroughly (I haven't) but because I didn't participate in it?<br /><br />Rhesus - I will concede that my original post may have sounded condescending. EOS.speknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-27466670337672757862010-11-22T15:59:56.000-05:002010-11-22T15:59:56.000-05:00You can have whatever goddam opinion you want and ...You can have whatever goddam opinion you want and don't try to throw up the straw man that I claimed otherwise. All I said was that you have no right to make assumptions that my opinion is somehow uninformed.Actus Rhesusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-4838642160555520472010-11-22T15:23:17.000-05:002010-11-22T15:23:17.000-05:00What it precludes you from, spek, is delcaring tha...What it precludes you from, spek, is delcaring that "<span>Anyone who argues that Iraq was a good, justifed war must not know anyone who died over there."</span><br /><br />Because you DON'T know, and you weren't there.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-30259674236211546082010-11-22T14:17:57.000-05:002010-11-22T14:17:57.000-05:00Is that similar to the "You weren't there...Is that similar to the "You weren't there so you can't know" arrogance? Of course i am ignorant of the actions and bravery on the field. Does that preclude me from questioning the cost, both in lives and dollars? speknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-18302916467142254312010-11-22T11:17:08.000-05:002010-11-22T11:17:08.000-05:00Skippy:
Again, 40% of all taxpayers paying federa...Skippy:<br /><br />Again, 40% of all taxpayers paying federal income taxes. That much is true. <br /><br />Yes - lower income still pay FICA taxes, and sales taxes, but they do not pay much, if anything, in terms of federal taxes. I do - and I'm tired of it.<br /><br />All you need to know about Democrats - I own a rental property in St. Paul. They just raised my property taxes 10.4%. Democrats own that town, and buying there was the biggest hose job I've ever experienced. I can't raise the rent, I haven't recieved a pay increase to handle that. Did they miss the memo that you don't raise taxes when the economy sucks? <br /><br />People like you like ...itch when your taxes go up, but you still vote in the same people.Wharf Ratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-57429272123804207662010-11-22T11:07:08.000-05:002010-11-22T11:07:08.000-05:00Will she hire communists like Van Jones? How abou...Will she hire communists like Van Jones? How about that education guy who told a kid to 'use a condom' when the kid was UNDERAGE, and the man who did sh..... to the kid was a teacher?!<br /><br />No way Palin associates with garbage like that. <br /><br />Also - and this speaks to the bleading heart of obama, he's reputed to have hired or appointed more gays than any other past president. I don't care if they're freakin' gays, I care about one thing, can they do the job. At least Palin won't hire someone on the basis of who they're fraggin' with. Keep it in your bedroom.Wharf Ratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-63936208782309125352010-11-22T10:10:31.000-05:002010-11-22T10:10:31.000-05:00Or was actually IN Iraq and has their opinion form...Or was actually IN Iraq and has their opinion formed by real world experience. Sorry spec but I really hate that leftist canard of "oh well if you were only better informed you'd see it my way". Arrogance.Actus Rhesusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-12717773520694847702010-11-22T08:31:59.000-05:002010-11-22T08:31:59.000-05:00http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/11/navy-civilia...<a href="http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/11/navy-civilians-join-gator-fleet-112210w/" rel="nofollow">http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/11/navy-civilians-join-gator-fleet-112210w/</a><br />I'm going hi-jack the thread for a minute to go on a monday morning rant. I'm sick and tired of our admirals. SICK. AND. TIRED. First, this crap about putting CIVMARs on amphibs, and, instead of saying "they'll have to be cool with going into combat," the CNO says "We just can't operate the ships where we used to because of the laws of war." Really? Who made you frickin King?<br />Then there is CJCS Mullen, how goes high and LEFT on sunday morning talk shows accusing republicans of playing politics with national security. <breathe>. Sorry to hi-jack, but I'm fuming. WAY TO SUCK!</breathe>Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-33986085150285804612010-11-22T08:08:21.000-05:002010-11-22T08:08:21.000-05:00Yes, wrong. As in YOU are wrong. No matter what y...Yes, wrong. As in YOU are wrong. No matter what you service, or your family's service has been.<br /><br />"<span>Anyone who argues that Iraq was a good, justifed war must not know anyone who died over there."</span><br /><br />That is an arrogant and ignorant statement, and disrespectful of those who served, who knew many who died. And it also is inaccurate, as the Marines I served beside understood well why we were there, and the consequences of failure and of letting Iraq fester.UltiimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-57435364999612642172010-11-22T07:54:44.000-05:002010-11-22T07:54:44.000-05:00really? will she increase the debt that much? wi...really? will she increase the debt that much? will she socialize healthcare? pass tax raises while we're in the middle of a recession? bow to despots?Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-82665322628393892882010-11-22T07:31:35.000-05:002010-11-22T07:31:35.000-05:00Clinton left us Bosnia and hosed up Somalia. Clinton left us Bosnia and hosed up Somalia. LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-28118281126882018732010-11-22T06:42:13.000-05:002010-11-22T06:42:13.000-05:00Ewok, it's a pity the Balkans took place right...Ewok, it's a pity the Balkans took place right before the internet age, because otherwise the muslims wouldn't have been able to make such a stellar job of their PR.<br /><br />As it was, the perception was that the Serbs were the bad guys.<br /><br />While in reality, what happened there was that NATO helped install the first genuine foothold of jihadism in Europe. Srebrenica, though I condemn it, was caused by something, you know.Outlaw Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-87596148005373996632010-11-22T02:18:09.000-05:002010-11-22T02:18:09.000-05:00Byron-No. I'm talking about the non government...Byron-No. I'm talking about the non governmental transfer of wealth by which 80+% of Americans experienced a real time loss of spending and earning power while the top 1% of all wage earners garnered more than 28% of the nations wealth.<br /><br />And that 40% figure about tax paying is incorrect. I proved it twice before and you can find the <a href="http://fareastcynic.com/?p=5503" rel="nofollow">reasons why here.</a>Skippy-sannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-75613967029034727172010-11-22T00:16:40.000-05:002010-11-22T00:16:40.000-05:00As far as I am concerned, the ex-Yugoslavia deploy...As far as I am concerned, the ex-Yugoslavia deployments are a rare example of Clinton actually having balls to do something (although belatedly). Though I am fully aware thet Europe should have managed this by itself many years earlier.<br /><br />There is more than one thing I find common in Bush the Younger and Truman. Both were landed by twist of fate in a beginning of a Long War - one Cold, one quite Hot. Both exited unpopular in a middle of dragging out limited wars. One can only wonder if in 50 years time people will acknowledge Bush as the one who laid down the foundations under the successful Islam Containment?ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-78826190766960705712010-11-21T23:58:48.000-05:002010-11-21T23:58:48.000-05:00Wrong. I served my country. I made my sacrifices...Wrong. I served my country. I made my sacrifices. Maybe I didn't give as much as some here, but that is only because it was the wrong time the wrong circumstance. My grandfather, my father, my uncles all fought for this country - I admire their dedication and their courage. That doesnt preclude me from facing the obvious - Iraq is a bad situation. War for the sake of war benefits no one. Lots of people died there, and maybe I am wrong, but I don't see the benefit. I am saddened at our direction. I think Obama is a bad president, but is he better or worse than Bush? Waterboarding? Torture? Bush the first would never have allowed this. This country is supposed to be the shining light of freedom and liberty. Now we frisk toddlers in our airports...speknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-60292164290972091052010-11-21T22:31:17.000-05:002010-11-21T22:31:17.000-05:00So say we all.So say we all.Grandpa Bluewaternoreply@blogger.com