tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post2313490627257075398..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: Leadership rejects reality, substitutes their own ....CDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-73155597711603348442013-03-09T19:17:22.784-05:002013-03-09T19:17:22.784-05:00I read this paragraph fully on the topic of the re...I read this paragraph fully on the topic of the resemblance of newest and preceding technologies, it's awesome article.<br /><br />My blog post - <a href="http://www.leejongeun.com/tc/entry/LKM-Loadable-Kernel-Module%EC%97%90%EC%84%9C%EC%9D%98-symbol-%EC%B0%B8%EC%A1%B0-2?commentId=14291" rel="nofollow">52080</a><br /><i>My web site</i> :: <b><a href="http://flaveur.net/third/zenphoto/index.php?album=travaux&image=Ohe-capitaine.jpg" rel="nofollow">87281</a></b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-41434856504315093152010-11-24T22:22:08.000-05:002010-11-24T22:22:08.000-05:00HOGWASH! USNS ships were up front in DS/S and sea...HOGWASH! USNS ships were up front in DS/S and sealift ships with contract mariners sat at the pier while Scuds rained down all around them. This whole line about jumping ships is BS and insults thousands of current mariners.leeseanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-89209154337310041012010-11-24T22:19:33.000-05:002010-11-24T22:19:33.000-05:00Like I said TWICE I am not for putting CIVMARs on ...Like I said TWICE I am not for putting CIVMARs on amphibs. BUT they are ALREADY onboard some. There are downsides to this proposal from a CIVMAR persmanagement standpoint that I can't repeat. There are methods used by MSC which MAY be helpful on amphibs. I believe they have adopted MSC Lube Oil analysis program after all the screwups with the LPD17 LO flushing, etc. BUT it remains to be seen how much technical improvements can migrate from civilians to sailors AND if the above mentioned SHAPM will adopt any as class items? <br /><br />I am NOT saying they are the saving angels for amphibs that lies in the admittedly faulty naval leadership. I would like to see better designed Gators again problems with naval technical management specifically SHAPMs. I would like to see more & better trained Gator Sailors (of which I pround once). The Newport's EO was a diesel submariner and damn proud of how well he ran his dept. His engineers were top notch hard workers. It just occured to me that he brough a different ethic to the Gators too. <br /><br />All I am trying to do is inject facts as opposed to wishes into this thread.leeseanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-3812535207727169582010-11-24T06:51:11.000-05:002010-11-24T06:51:11.000-05:00and Uncle Vern. Alignment and all that. and Uncle Vern. Alignment and all that. LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-5739450154624140262010-11-24T06:50:16.000-05:002010-11-24T06:50:16.000-05:00Before the coffee, I thought you said you missed h...Before the coffee, I thought you said you missed hot pants. I was trying to figure out what an LBES is and how they looked in hot pants. I read it again and it made sense then. But I like hot pants on the right wearer too! :)LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-27578322456197214862010-11-23T21:40:56.000-05:002010-11-23T21:40:56.000-05:00Rejecting and substituting realities.... I can se...Rejecting and substituting realities.... I can see Adam and Jamie, looking over the executed bodies of CIVMARs who had fallen into enemy hands and been shot as spies from amphibs whose crews were not trained to fight, and two battalions of stranded Marines ashore.<br /><br />"The myth that civilian crews will work on US Navy combatants in harm's way? BUSTED!"UltiimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-75073564429476091922010-11-23T20:10:24.000-05:002010-11-23T20:10:24.000-05:00They are indeed valid targets. We think so. Why ...They are indeed valid targets. We think so. Why would the enemy demur? UltiimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-31623380268021678732010-11-23T20:06:52.000-05:002010-11-23T20:06:52.000-05:00ALWAYS blame JAG for the mess. They're traine...ALWAYS blame JAG for the mess. They're trained to redirect. 8-)UltiimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-17402096232292312962010-11-23T17:54:36.000-05:002010-11-23T17:54:36.000-05:00Merchant ships are not accident free. Nor casualty...Merchant ships are not accident free. Nor casualty free. Ask the CG.Grandpa Bluewaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-54852071037278695182010-11-23T17:51:26.000-05:002010-11-23T17:51:26.000-05:00<span>"MSC ships have DC lockers stocke...<span>"MSC ships have DC lockers stocked above USCG rqmts</span>".<br /><br />Given what the CG requires, 'taint much of an achievement. Slight correction - in most cases: THE dc locker is stocked....as in one. One fire party, two hoses, start the fire pump and fill and pressurize the (normally dry) fire main when the alarm sounds (if the engineering spaces are manned, diesel ships aren't always). Do you really want a ten or twelve, at most less than 20, man engineering dept? On an amphib, in a warzone, in an opposed landing? Fatigue? Might just be some.Grandpa Bluewaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-8686472041928462052010-11-23T17:25:29.000-05:002010-11-23T17:25:29.000-05:00Can't wait to get into my volumes of Morison f...Can't wait to get into my <a href="http://www.amazon.com/History-United-States-Naval-Operations/dp/0762854316" rel="nofollow">volumes of Morison</a> for some choice, real navy in a real war examples of the culture clash leesea tries to look over....sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-79674283257917706842010-11-23T17:19:29.000-05:002010-11-23T17:19:29.000-05:00hey guest:
why not avoid all of the blather and i...hey guest:<br /><br />why not avoid all of the blather and insist that the whole da*&n thing be manned by guys that wear white hats and taxidriver caps.<br /><br />Cpknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-19514095771379837852010-11-23T16:03:46.000-05:002010-11-23T16:03:46.000-05:00LaFleurLaFleurSan Diego Sailornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-12426397784271993922010-11-23T15:41:17.000-05:002010-11-23T15:41:17.000-05:00Jay, If the CDR, URR, Granpa, Salty Gator, myself ...Jay, If the CDR, URR, Granpa, Salty Gator, myself or pretty much any member in good standing of the Loyal Order of the Front Porch take a stand on ANY issue, it's almost a dead shot guarantee that you'll take the opposing viewpoint. That's a knee jerk reaction in anyones language.Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-67584376599698038112010-11-23T15:26:25.000-05:002010-11-23T15:26:25.000-05:00Leesea -- fighting the good fight I see...
If any...Leesea -- fighting the good fight I see...<br /><br />If anyone can make this happen -- MSC will.<br /><br />I think the above comments generally overestimate the problems (command responsibilities, the union effect, etc.). No surprise.<br /><br />I suspect, that in the 1970s when MSC started to take over the auxiliaries -- if we had an internet back then -- we would have seen pretty much the same as above comments (sky is falling...).<br /><br />Will be a very interesting experiment.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-90188932349617160822010-11-23T10:21:38.000-05:002010-11-23T10:21:38.000-05:00And would you blame FNSN Timmy if he did exactly t...And would you blame FNSN Timmy if he did exactly that? Or would you blame Navy leadership for thinking this was the way to educate AND <strong>motivate</strong> young sailors?Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-31663081236112220572010-11-23T09:49:29.000-05:002010-11-23T09:49:29.000-05:00disagree. Merchies set the auto pilot and fall as...disagree. Merchies set the auto pilot and fall asleep in the pilot house. You let the merchies take over Deck Department, try that shit with the VMS and see how long they last! Merchantmen are really corporate animals. They live in staterooms, work normal days, next to no PMS, have flat screens, couches, all sorts of gucci ammenities that are incompatible with a warship.<br />Oh, and they all get pierside parking! WTF?!<br />Merchies are good at what they do--sailing merchantmen. Some of their engineers are phenomenal. THEY SHOULD BE, THEY SPENT 4 YEARS IN SCHOOL AND ALL OF THEIR SUMMERS IN COLLEGE DOING NOTHING BUT ENGINEERING.<br />Crewing a warship is DIFFERENT. So, instead of Roughead saying "we need to reinvest in engineering training, maintenance and modernization (and dump our revolutionary shipbuilding strategy that still exists after the FAIL of 17, 1000 and LCS)," he says "we need to outsource our sailors. Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-73206403844078094682010-11-23T09:31:56.000-05:002010-11-23T09:31:56.000-05:00While I agree with the sentiment, do you actually ...While I agree with the sentiment, do you actually expect Obama to appoint anyone who would be an improvement? Regardless of Roughhead's employment status, I foresee the same crap coming down the pipe....Aubreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-14439621930836178072010-11-23T07:25:19.000-05:002010-11-23T07:25:19.000-05:00It is not about culture, it's about getting th...<em>It is not about culture, it's about getting the job done</em><br /><br />Will give you that one too leesea....but your solution as-CIVMARS will solve it is the wrong way to go about gettting it done.<br /><br />its like CIVMARS are your hammer...and all the navy's manpower issues are the nail it can push home.<br /><br />Belaboring the point, that is simply myopic.<br /><br />Senior navy leaderships needs to face the mirror and call the optimum manning regimen of the last decade an abject failure, and reinstitute a competent surface snipe force.sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-2958708328021493552010-11-23T07:23:48.000-05:002010-11-23T07:23:48.000-05:00Leesea, I agree w/ you on the driving aspect. A l...Leesea, I agree w/ you on the driving aspect. A lot of the merchies are far better drivers, navigators, etc. It is interesting to watch a merchie pull into port and a USS pull in. I prefer the merchie way. Maybe 3 guys and a pilot, quiet, relaxed, keeping it between the buoys. LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-55830912869174089182010-11-23T07:14:33.000-05:002010-11-23T07:14:33.000-05:00How can you say that? They gave us diversity and ...How can you say that? They gave us diversity and NKO training!LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-9044513132404287182010-11-23T07:11:50.000-05:002010-11-23T07:11:50.000-05:00I can attest to all of that. I made my Sailors do...I can attest to all of that. I made my Sailors do DC w/ the merchies and they far out performed the merchies. There was no hustle to the drill. You know when they are, everybody prepositions gear and themselves for muster. My civilians would scream a blue streak if we did a drill unscheduled and they never responded for an unscheduled alarm. <br /><br />CHENG and Master are largely equal. If they do not work well together it can also make for a very bad trip. LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-3183721257863440202010-11-23T05:45:01.000-05:002010-11-23T05:45:01.000-05:00I miss LBES and hot plants
"This is a Colt-P...I miss LBES and hot plants<br /><br />"This is a Colt-Pielstick 16cyl, 45 degree, twin turbocharged marine diesel. This week we read about it, next week we tear it apart, the week after we put it together, and finally we stand watch on it. Questions?"<br /><br />That was training. Hand FN Timmy a g*ddamn CD-ROM and it's gonna end up as a coaster for his beer.ASWOJoenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-37633481798497468122010-11-23T05:44:31.000-05:002010-11-23T05:44:31.000-05:00I miss LBES and hot plants
"This is a Colt-P...I miss LBES and hot plants<br /><br />"This is a Colt-Pielstick 16cyl, 45 degree, turbocharged marine diesel. This week we read about it, next week we tear it apart, the week after we put it together, and finally we stand watch on it. Questions?"<br /><br />That was training. Hand FN Timmy a g*ddamn CD-ROM and it's gonna end up as a coaster for his beer.ASWOJoenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-55963873345289516742010-11-23T02:35:50.000-05:002010-11-23T02:35:50.000-05:00<span>Not much going to/from homeport becau...<span><i>Not much going to/from homeport because MSC does not work that way. I had ships in DGAR gone for FIVE years. One short VR period none of that MTA and OVHL for them. On station ready to go. </i></span><br /><br />As was said above, ships that were never molested by battle.<br /><br />You posit a quite myopic experience a bit too far Leesa..but you are too blind to see it.<br /><br />I DO agree with you though about sailors wanting to go to sea....<br /><br />Its something the USN should be about.<br /><br />And waging war there too.sidnoreply@blogger.com