tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post2166061061073194244..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: Fullbore FridayCDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-40015024816304245482010-02-12T21:22:13.000-05:002010-02-12T21:22:13.000-05:00<span>"It's possibly a fate of LCS ...<span>"It's possibly a fate of LCS facing a dedicated ASuW ship like Sovremenny.."</span><br /><span></span><br /><span>Or an LCS facing a brace of MTB's, if their Squad Dog has .01 of John Bulkley's character, determination and tactical smarts.</span><br /><span></span><br /><span>Or anything with a 5 inch gun commanded by a man such as Captain Kennedy.</span><br /><span></span><br /><span>Unless the LCS gets the hard core guy. Then if the odds are not overwhelming, the LCS may acquit herself well. But our hard core young'ns deserve better than</span><br /><span>les leetle crapay sheep.</span><br /><span></span><br /><span>Hard core indeed. Thanks, Phib.</span>Grandpa Bluewaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-84499662078707730782010-02-12T20:23:02.000-05:002010-02-12T20:23:02.000-05:00My word, there are gonna be a lot of surprised peo...My word, there are gonna be a lot of surprised people over at that website, when the LCSes start sinking in thier first combats. Looking at the photo of FREEDOM aver at Tim's site, I see lots of room on the foredeck for not just one 5"er, but if you add a short O-1 deck in front of the eckhouse, you could have a second superfiring one. There also seems to be plenty of room for a Bofors on either side of the deckouse aft, so the ship would have an actual self defence capability against patrol boats. Since the only radar is a commercial navigational one, they are going to have to rely on Stingers for AA protection. I realise guns are not cool, especially optically aimed ones. But DEs survived on the "ping line " off Okinowa, with optically aimed 5"/38s, and ABERCROMBIE even claimed an Okha I doubt that there are many surface threats that will approach faster than a KATE in a power dive. There may be structural reasons that they cannot actually arm them, or electrical power for gun drives may not exist, so my suggestions may be impossible to use. Of course, the first SS they meet will sink them, so my argument is moot.SCOTTtheBADGERnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-35262522050898207132010-02-12T17:31:16.000-05:002010-02-12T17:31:16.000-05:00Nope, sid, we just THINK it's different. And ...Nope, sid, we just THINK it's different. And that is entirely our folly.UltiimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-30545902603259464372010-02-12T17:27:00.000-05:002010-02-12T17:27:00.000-05:00An operational victory it was, and well worthy of ...An operational victory it was, and well worthy of an FbF.<br /><br />You gotta fight with what you got.<br /><br />But nobody in their right minds would have contemplated composing a significant portion of the RN with ships possessing so little unit "Staying Power".<br /><br />Armed to the teeth or no.<br /><br />But its somehow <strong></strong><em>different </em>now....sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-9425284050792815902010-02-12T17:08:20.000-05:002010-02-12T17:08:20.000-05:00also note even "lost" battle can force e...also note even "lost" battle can force enemy to abandon his plans and thus be victory in disguise - imagine the damage Scharnhorst and Gneisenau could wreak on early convoys...ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-80418600585160776062010-02-12T15:52:04.000-05:002010-02-12T15:52:04.000-05:00Scott and ewok beat me to it...
Which is why I wi...Scott and ewok beat me to it...<br /><br />Which is why I will (again) parrot Baron Brassey:<br /><br /><strong></strong><em>An admiral having Freedoms and Independences in his fleet will be sure to put them in the line of battle, where their comparatively light protection would be at a disadvantage.</em><br /><strong></strong><em></em><br />If you doubt that premise is valid a century on for a totally different ship type in a different time...<a href="http://www.informationdissemination.net/2010/02/thoughts-of-day.html#disqus_thread" rel="nofollow">then read all the comments about "uparming" the current LCS hulls</a>....sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-80102014785790827882010-02-12T11:45:01.000-05:002010-02-12T11:45:01.000-05:00An Iron Man in an iron ship..... ...An Iron Man in an iron ship..... virgil xenophonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-61627731697735248732010-02-12T09:14:33.000-05:002010-02-12T09:14:33.000-05:00<span>"Some can look at this as folly, ...<span>"Some can look at this as folly, bravado, or worse. Really?<br /><br />No, that is focus on mission and understanding your place in war - and the fact that in war, you don't choose your role or your moment."</span><br /><span></span><br /><span>I think he knew his place in history as well... a life well lived and with a different persepctive on priority. Even at the risk and cost of a crew. History matters... </span>MR T's Haircutnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-6433284995794157302010-02-12T08:31:42.000-05:002010-02-12T08:31:42.000-05:00Excellent piece, and an example of the finest in R...Excellent piece, and an example of the finest in RN command tradition.UltiimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-61502394603453204712010-02-12T08:05:40.000-05:002010-02-12T08:05:40.000-05:00He did his job, and stopped the 2 battlecruisers. ...He did his job, and stopped the 2 battlecruisers. DOG GEORGE CAPTAIN KENNEDY! ( DOG GEORGE, the RN WWII equivilant of BZ. DOG GEORGE, Maneuver Well Executed, Damned Good )<br /><br />Pawel, ir seems to me that that would be the fate of an LCS going up against anything larger than a Boston Whaler. SCOTTtheBADGERnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-35930503153198839792010-02-12T07:02:43.000-05:002010-02-12T07:02:43.000-05:00It's possibly a fate of LCS facing a dedicated...It's possibly a fate of LCS facing a dedicated ASuW ship like Sovremenny...ewok40knoreply@blogger.com