tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post8433646551017898141..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: Wikileaks: clueless or evil?CDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-61564557696891934672010-07-26T22:08:55.000-04:002010-07-26T22:08:55.000-04:00Southern Air Pirate,
You know, fifteen weeks late...Southern Air Pirate,<br /><br />You know, fifteen weeks later, I read this again:<br /><br />"<span>Remember we in the military are knuckle dragging morons who don't know how to hold a real job are satisfying our animal lust for killing people through being in the military."</span><br /><br />I STILL think it is a better recruiting slogan than "A Global Force for Good". :-PUltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-32799115170792414702010-07-26T19:06:20.000-04:002010-07-26T19:06:20.000-04:00"<span>Since when was nickel trade the ..."<span>Since when was nickel trade the same thing as free speech?"</span><br /><br />When they knew damned well the Nazis used the strategic metal to help build a war machine to subjugate Europe and exterminate Europe's Jews. <br /><br />You are comparing the Shah of Iran to Hitler? The Shah was a humane moderate compared to the Ayatollah, for cryin' out loud.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-80474725260967661262010-07-26T17:26:21.000-04:002010-07-26T17:26:21.000-04:00"<span>I think we have established that..."<span>I think we have established that you know nothing about combat. <br /> <br />I think we have also established that you know nothing about the USA and the First Amendment to the Constitution."</span><br /><br />saying "I think we established" DOES NOT establish anything or do anything to prove your point. Furthermore the First Poster was pointing out Sweden's own protection of sources even in cases such as this. I think we have established that cdrsalamander knows nothing about the world or even the area outside his mom's basement (you see what I did there?)<br /><br />"<span> Was that the same Sweden that had such a thriving iron ore and nickel trade with Nazi Germany? Who gave the Germans (but not the Allies) military transit rights? Who denied asylum to refugees from Hitler's persecution and death camps? Are you kidding me?"</span><br /><br />Since when was nickel trade the same thing as free speech? and don't ignore America's dark history in supporting totalitarian leaders (Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi ring a bell? It should).dirknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-29663339245955718542010-04-10T04:50:43.000-04:002010-04-10T04:50:43.000-04:00Perhaps you are to be thought of as an American Cr...Perhaps you are to be thought of as an American Crocodile, BD? Much meaner than a gator.SCOTTtheBADGERnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-72394894170633431562010-04-09T22:19:05.000-04:002010-04-09T22:19:05.000-04:00My trip out to Rusti was an interesting one. I ha...My trip out to Rusti was an interesting one. I had a particularly nasty prisoner who I wanted prosecuted for his IED making extra-curriculars. Unfortunately the "amnesty law" was about to kick in which meant that even though I could prove he was MAKING bombs, because I couldn't link any of his bombs to a casualty, I was going to have to release him. Until a bunch of locals decided to drop a dime on him for the kidnapping and murder of another Iraqi. We changed the charges from bomb-making to murder and had him prosecuted. What people like the moonbats at wikileaks don't get is that areas like Rustimiyah are filled with truly evil people. They aren't freedom fighters fending off the oppressive US...they are local thugs who terrorize their own people and then fire on us to keep us away so we don't shut down their operation. I could go on and on about the things I saw there...but that doesn't comport with the US=evil meme that's popular these days.ActusRhesusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-68966107081660127032010-04-09T22:14:19.000-04:002010-04-09T22:14:19.000-04:00oh shut up.oh shut up.ActusRhesusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-79220853157747725512010-04-09T22:13:24.000-04:002010-04-09T22:13:24.000-04:00correct. there's a lot of confusion with the ...correct. there's a lot of confusion with the GC depending on who's involved and where. Without muddying the waters too much, in 2007 we and iraq were both signatories to portions of the GC, so even in fighting insurgents, certain provisions apply. The ones that DON'T apply are the POW provisions. They are not POWs, the are security detainees.ActusRhesusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-64851258249539684142010-04-09T20:35:36.000-04:002010-04-09T20:35:36.000-04:00Oops. pardon. (Disappears into her little shell ...Oops. pardon. (Disappears into her little shell right quick....)DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-87010884819689058272010-04-09T20:19:51.000-04:002010-04-09T20:19:51.000-04:00AR - Sorry to be late to this dicsussion, I saw &q...AR - Sorry to be late to this dicsussion, I saw "Wikileaks" and jumped to my conclusions, so I haven't been following this closely.<br /><br />You say "...while this is not a declared war, nor is it a conflict between the US and Iraq since the fall of the Saddam government, it is still an armed conflict within the confines of a signatory nation, involving another signatory nation." <br /><br />I thought the Congressional resolution, and the UNSC authorization, made this the equivalent of war? Is that only for US domestic law purposes?<br /><br />Second, isn't the GC standard that the war needs to be between signatories, not just within the confines of a signatory? I understand the Protocols, and perhaps US policy, differ on this. I also understand the current not-a-SOFA has further changes this since 2007. But under the GC in 2007, we weren't fighting Iraq but insurgents within Iraq, no?Andrewdbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-15670609614564309142010-04-09T20:04:16.000-04:002010-04-09T20:04:16.000-04:00Ah'm de Gator, cher!Ah'm de Gator, cher!Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-48283904104283555812010-04-09T20:03:21.000-04:002010-04-09T20:03:21.000-04:00Hahaa. 'Cept I like to think of myself as a g...Hahaa. 'Cept I like to think of myself as a gator putting the fix to slow turtles. Mostly like to bask sleepily in the sun unless something catches my attention and begs to be chomped.DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-9402405538695898612010-04-09T19:54:27.000-04:002010-04-09T19:54:27.000-04:00This place really is a swamp, populated by critter...This place really is a swamp, populated by critters, the Boss is a Salamander, there is an Eagle here, QM is a Wiener Dawg, there is a Rhesus monkey running around, as well as an Ewok, and now DB is revealed to be a Snapping Turtle! I suppose Byron will be revealed to be a grumpy old Possum, next.SCOTTtheBADGERnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-25983233684409125942010-04-09T19:45:56.000-04:002010-04-09T19:45:56.000-04:00Ah, beloved Delta, if you were here, I would share...Ah, beloved Delta, if you were here, I would share some Badgernip with you!SCOTTtheBADGERnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-82667583745457663642010-04-09T18:08:25.000-04:002010-04-09T18:08:25.000-04:00Where to start .... well, I think we have establis...Where to start .... well, I think we have established that you know nothing about combat.<br /><br />I think we have also established that you know nothing about the USA and the First Amendment to the Constitution. <br /><br />-2.cdrsalamandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-26945721617634812812010-04-09T17:26:34.000-04:002010-04-09T17:26:34.000-04:00Those US soldiers acts like they play a videogame....Those US soldiers acts like they play a videogame. They could've taken other actions, but they did'nt want to. There you have the evil part of this story. And I'm really proud we have this law in Sweden, that protects the source. Are Sweden and Belgium the only ones left, really defending the free speach? Read Orwell's 1984, and you'll understand. I love America, but not the dirty parts. Therefor should those be exposed.Bulldognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-2589104742023329422010-04-08T00:24:51.000-04:002010-04-08T00:24:51.000-04:00Well, thank you. I look upon it as my charitable ...Well, thank you. I look upon it as my charitable obligation. So many needing a clue... I believe in giving to the needy, you know.DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-38033101172312318212010-04-07T15:36:45.000-04:002010-04-07T15:36:45.000-04:00Chris,
You've never seen the killing of innoc...Chris,<br /><br />You've never seen the killing of innocents. Let alone the deliberate killing of innocents. If you did, you wouldn't make such imbecile comments.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-83927718864327233342010-04-07T15:21:33.000-04:002010-04-07T15:21:33.000-04:00Mizz DB, you wield a wicked cluebat, and I say tha...Mizz DB, you wield a wicked cluebat, and I say that with the highest respect!Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-89105682573873871512010-04-07T14:56:31.000-04:002010-04-07T14:56:31.000-04:00Oh, and Chris, where is your and Wiki's outrag...Oh, and Chris, where is your and Wiki's outrage at <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3189443&page=1" rel="nofollow">this?</a> Seems there was NO doubt these men were journalists. This event occurred about two months before the Apache event. DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-70234748243849450642010-04-07T14:19:06.000-04:002010-04-07T14:19:06.000-04:00So you're saying that gaggle of thugs wasn'...So you're saying that gaggle of thugs wasn't an Iraqi boy scout troop congregating to complete the Eagle Scout project of building a bench for the local mosque park?<br /><br />Many of the IEDs used during that time were EFPs sent over the border from Iran. Devastating to our troops. <br /><br />Chris is a magician if he can detect innocence from an Apache scope. We should hire him to point out all the "good guys." The only innocents on the ground there were the children. And they were brought to a firefight by the men in the van. That seems to be a cultural norm there. <br /><br />Note also.. if our guys truly were thugs, a woman and small boy were caught on the film walking up the street and away from the firefight before the trucks got there. If our guys were truly horrible like Chris says, they would have mowed those two people down as well.DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-54715758265387654962010-04-07T14:02:00.000-04:002010-04-07T14:02:00.000-04:00and let me clarify...when I say murder case, I mea...and let me clarify...when I say murder case, I mean murder of Iraqis, by Iraqis. Not this "collateral murder" garbage.ActusRhesusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-84389927348700650282010-04-07T14:00:02.000-04:002010-04-07T14:00:02.000-04:00I was in Sadr City November 2007-August 2008. I&#...I was in Sadr City November 2007-August 2008. I've been to Rustimiyah to collect evidence on a murder case. Your description is accurate. In addition, the most direct route from any major US FOB to Rusti was occasionally referred to by my convoy teams as IED alley. A ground engagement in that area is HIGHLY likely.ActusRhesusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-85494013293405666532010-04-07T12:01:21.000-04:002010-04-07T12:01:21.000-04:00As a listener I can agree, you presented your side...As a listener I can agree, you presented your side quite well.Theodorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-50891965365284067462010-04-07T11:19:59.000-04:002010-04-07T11:19:59.000-04:00Phib, to your original question, there has to be a...Phib, to your original question, there has to be a third choice beyond cluelessness or evil. I think Wikileaks falls into that third category. Clueless would imply innocence of the facts... but Wiki is willfully ignorant of the facts. By 2010 there is more than enough information out there to put that firefight into context. Wiki ignored any fact that didn't agree with its preconceived notions. Long ago, Lenin referred to these type of people as "Useful Idiots." Indeed they are. WikiLeaks has an agenda. A sanctimonious self-serving world view where up is down and good is bad and wrong is right. Facts that disagree with that view are dismissed. "Willfully ignorant" is my call. Being true believers that everyone is "good" (except American soldiers), killing terrorists is horrible and subjecting small children to battle conditions is not an abomination, they are incredibly useful propagandists for the kind of people who would turn Sweden into Sadr City2.0 if they had a chance. DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-64797631684376630172010-04-07T10:49:45.000-04:002010-04-07T10:49:45.000-04:00That black van that showed up (everyone has issues...That black van that showed up (everyone has issues with shooting the people removing dead bodies and weapons...) Well, is that the militia recycling program at work? Why was their worry picking up dead bodies and weapons? How did they know to get there so quickly? Seen the whole video, all 39 minutes, where a bunch of guys ran into a nearby shell of a building that got hell-fired to oblivion? These were not "innocents." The only innocents involved were the kids in the van. <br /><br />Now, I don't know about you, but I have children. And no way in hell would I have driven through a firefight (what WAS going on that there was nary a soul in that video on a rooftop, at a window or walking in the street? Where WERE all the people???) with KIDS in the car and stopped and picked up dead bodies and put them in the car with my kids. Small kids. Small enough to be carried in the arms. WTF? WHO does that? How traumatic! What do you say? "Here, habiba, hold the RPG for daddy. And here's the grenades. Let's put them here." Methinks they REALLY were using the kids as cover so they could get through checkpoints and look innocent. Bastards. It's one step above the terrorist thugs who strapped kids in carbombs and drove them through checkpoints and detonated the cars with the kids inside. <br /><br />The guys in the chopper were going to leave the guy on the ground alone till his militia friends came by and started picking him up and gathering up weapons. The Reuters guys who were watching and documenting the planned ambush of our soldiers got their story. Too bad they didn't get to file it. No Pulitzer for them. Boo frickin' hoo!DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.com