tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post7335840318883796523..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: Sen. Webb (D-VA), meet ADM Rouhead (CNO-Diversity)CDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-57872066332871490222010-11-07T17:51:56.528-05:002010-11-07T17:51:56.528-05:00Homeopathic medication may be a organic form of th...Homeopathic medication may be a organic form of therapeutic!<br />[url=http://www.homeopathicdoctors.org/]homeopathic doctors[/url]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-91441053431673815102010-07-27T23:14:14.000-04:002010-07-27T23:14:14.000-04:00Guest, Good points. By your time BOOST had change...Guest, Good points. By your time BOOST had changed significantly from it's early days. By the I commanded a Naval ROTC unit a few years after your time only one of my BOOST students was a minority.<br /><br />I didn't mean to imply that any sailor was stewing about being rejected from Princeton but rather with being rejected from Navy programs that they're eligible for and trying to rationalize it. Was trying to make a parallel through the Douthat piece.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-10024043658413534092010-07-27T22:06:55.000-04:002010-07-27T22:06:55.000-04:00i went to BOOST in 90-91.
though i really like ro...i went to BOOST in 90-91.<br /><br />though i really like ross douthat's writing and i appreciate his point in this article, the author of the study said doucet extrapolated beyond the reach of the data to reach the wrong conclusions. are there young white sailors out there stewing in resentment because they were rejected from princeton? rejected because of their involvement in 4-H and FFA???<br /><br />there simply are not many poor whites applying to ivy league schools. the applicant pool tends to upper middle class families--regardless of race.<br /><br />i think resentment and anxiety on the part of white folks should not be dismissed. it's real and it should be addressed, i just don't think diversity should be code for "minority" or "reparations." america shouldn't have a protected class--and i mean that both ways. many folks grew up protected, but just don't know itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-79403071774322274792010-07-27T16:22:09.000-04:002010-07-27T16:22:09.000-04:00WestPac. WESTPAC. You carry a WESTPACK when you ...WestPac. WESTPAC. You carry a WESTPACK when you are on liberty during a WESTPAC. Sheesh!Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-43617383969924747982010-07-27T15:49:07.000-04:002010-07-27T15:49:07.000-04:00Guest, Not sure when you went through BOOST but wh...Guest, Not sure when you went through BOOST but when it was established in the early 1970s race was, in fact, a primary factor for acceptance as the program's goal was to increase the number of minorities at the Naval Academy and NROTC. When you consider that there were only 36 blacks at USNA (old timers will understand the significance of that number) when I entered in 1966, they were right to be concerned. In the 1980s the criteria changed since minority enrollment in both programs had increased as had concern regarding court challenges of the emphasis on race.<br /><br />Recommend that you take a look at Russ Douthat's op-ed,"The Roots of White Anxiety" in the July 19, NYT, for some insight on the "hangups" that some of the young sailors do have. C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-60835863038955600252010-07-27T15:28:05.000-04:002010-07-27T15:28:05.000-04:00BOOST was pretty much for everyone who a) had the ...BOOST was pretty much for everyone who a) had the academic potential and aptitude to be an officer and b) didn't have the opportunity or background that would normally preclude direct accession to USNA or NROTC. I remember going to BOOST with all the kinds of folks. Race was not a predominant factor, but economic class was. I may overgeneralize, but we all came from poor, working poor, or lower middle class backgrounds. I was a sharp kid, but there was no way I could afford college, so I enlisted in the Navy.<br /><br />That's the BOOST that I remember.<br /><br />Later, I became a board member for S2A and we chose people based on potential for being an officer. Race played no role whatsoever.<br /><br />I've been following these forum for a while, and I'm glad that young sailors don't carry around all the racial hangups that y'all do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-49696367403680499572010-07-27T13:34:07.000-04:002010-07-27T13:34:07.000-04:0026 years ago before flight school, I was stashed i...26 years ago before flight school, I was stashed in the CNATRA Office in P-Cola processing BOOST, MECP and NECP applications. What struck me was that there were three "piles" in each category, each with its own criteria for selection. One for whites, one for blacks, and one for other minorities. When I made the briefing folders, I read the apps, and it always struck me as ironic that a poor white was expected to clear a higher hurdle than a middle-class or well-off African American to get into the programs. Granted, there were not as many middle-class or affluent Arifcan Americans applying as whites in the same category. <br /><br />Being the young, naive and somewhat righteous 22 year-old that I was, I asked the PhD who ran the office why race was such a major factor in selecting candidates. I reasoned that it should be a single standard for all sailors and Marines who applied. He chuckled a bit and in a condescending but nice way told me I would understand later that it was about righting past wrongs and making the officer corps more reflective of the racial makeup of the enlisted ranks. I asked him why it was fair for a poor white who was trying to better himself to be denied an opportunity in favor of a middle-class African American who hadn't taken advantage of the opportunities he'd been given. He stopped smiling and basically told me to just shut up and process the applications.<br /><br />Nothing's changed in 26 years, but we need politicians like Webb to keep saying the things that mainstream Dems are afraid to say, or 26 years from now, we'll still be having this discussion and race will continue to be the elephant in the room.Sokorisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-239076582269612602010-07-27T13:18:00.000-04:002010-07-27T13:18:00.000-04:00MTH, Don't forget that Jim Webb was a Democrat...MTH, Don't forget that Jim Webb was a Democrat before he became a Republican. Although he supported Ford in '76, he didn't officially break with the party until '77 after Carter granted amnesty to Vietnam resisters and draft dodgers.<br /><br />Although Jim Webb has had almost as many personas as Bob Dylan during his professional life, this one is probably his true personality. I agree with DM05 in his assessment. Once upon a time, the Democratic Party had room for people like this.C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-34068554043970115492010-07-27T12:19:40.000-04:002010-07-27T12:19:40.000-04:00I think old Jim Webb, is more a Republican in Dem ...I think old Jim Webb, is more a Republican in Dem Clothing... He just doesnt seem to bleed as much blue as Maxine or Barney...MR T's Haircutnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-38505493908764456362010-07-27T10:33:51.000-04:002010-07-27T10:33:51.000-04:00You don't come here much? We do a LOT more bi...You don't come here much? We do a LOT more bitching and moaning than this!<br /><br />But the points made are spot-on. Juxtapose <a href="http://blog.usni.org/2010/07/26/leadership-plain-and-simple/" rel="nofollow">real leadership elsewhere</a> with the politically motivated drivel of the US Navy's senior officers.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-63828648590747177812010-07-27T09:49:21.000-04:002010-07-27T09:49:21.000-04:00gawd, haven't this much bitchin and moaning si...gawd, haven't this much bitchin and moaning since my last westpackAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-87752154485608804502010-07-26T09:16:19.000-04:002010-07-26T09:16:19.000-04:00And that will happen as long as we elect the polit...And that will happen as long as we elect the politicians that we do. They will nominate the flags, and the flags will in turn promote.<br /><br />Trickle-down-diversinomicsSalty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-2998461722125890562010-07-26T09:13:29.000-04:002010-07-26T09:13:29.000-04:00THAT is a fantastic link, Whisper. Rock on Maggie...THAT is a fantastic link, Whisper. Rock on Maggie. Had no idea.<br /><br />Awesome. Americans are Americans. 'Novel' idea. Really puts liberals in their place: don't do me any frickin' favors with a month...Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-80338541430638745552010-07-26T09:05:40.000-04:002010-07-26T09:05:40.000-04:00Geo, somehow you managed to evade the Troll Watch....Geo, somehow you managed to evade the Troll Watch...Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-75576244393340222692010-07-25T23:27:38.000-04:002010-07-25T23:27:38.000-04:00Like many, I believe Webb has often been wrong on ...Like many, I believe Webb has often been wrong on critical policy matters. However, he is a patriot, warrior, and pretty good writer; here he is spot on. Diversity is good, in general to be inclusive. To institutionalize diversity to disadvantage and favor those without the right melanin is remains unamerican. DM05noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-15067683631508444612010-07-25T18:08:52.000-04:002010-07-25T18:08:52.000-04:00It took almost three years to roll out a Naval Ope...It took almost three years to roll out a Naval Operations Concept (NOC) to operationalize the maritime strategy. Will wager it proably will take less for a DOC and it will get more play (read: effort) at the OPNAV and other FO levels... Priorities? Please?<br />w/r, SJSSteeljawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-3741197520437326512010-07-25T16:01:10.000-04:002010-07-25T16:01:10.000-04:00Yes, and apparently it is being read. Just a coin...Yes, and apparently it is being read. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.<br /><br />The 2009 Sailor of the Year winners, who for the first time in history are all women, were meritoriously advanced to Chief Petty Officer during a ceremony held at the Navy Memorial July 22. Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Gary Roughead was the guest speaker at the pinning ceremony hosted by the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (MCPON)(SS/SW) Rick D. West.<br /> <br /> Hospital Corpsman 1st Class Ingrid Cortez, U.S. Fleet Forces Sea Sailor of the Year; Hospital Corpsman 1st Class Shalanda Brewer, Navy Reserve Sailor of the Year; Operations Specialist 1st Class Samira McBride, U.S. Pacific Fleet Sea Sailor of the Year and Cryptologic Technician (Technical) 1st Class Cassandra Foote, Chief of Naval Operations Shore Sailor of the Year were each presented their chief petty officer appointment letter from the CNO prior to having their anchors pinned to their collars and combination covers placed on their heads.<br /><br />hunh. go figure.bcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-40781312401704708632010-07-24T13:39:42.000-04:002010-07-24T13:39:42.000-04:00But Brad, true as it is as a sentiment, we have cr...But Brad, true as it is as a sentiment, we have created an environment where commanders are forever looking "up" at their bosses instead of "down' to the troops they are supposed to be leading.<br /><br />Sad state of affairs.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-54495530452231086082010-07-24T13:05:53.000-04:002010-07-24T13:05:53.000-04:00That's a great book. I read it in high school....That's a great book. I read it in high school. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Born-Fighting-Scots-Irish-Shaped-America/dp/0767916891/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279991138&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Born-Fighting-Scots-Irish-Shaped-America/dp/0767916891/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279991138&sr=1-1</a>Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-61634530709082431842010-07-24T11:49:47.000-04:002010-07-24T11:49:47.000-04:00<span>Any Commanding Officer who needs a law...<span><i>Any Commanding Officer who needs a lawyer and an EEO officer to tell him what is happening in Deck Division berthing should be fired.</i></span><br /><br />THIS! Good googly moogly, this hits the target. XBradTCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-43700476440784112422010-07-24T11:40:14.000-04:002010-07-24T11:40:14.000-04:00Webb is an odd guy. I'm glad he wrote the col...Webb is an odd guy. I'm glad he wrote the column and I hope it gets wide distribution, but like you, I'll be more impressed if he starts voting his conscience.Kristennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-28492960254127524832010-07-24T11:16:50.000-04:002010-07-24T11:16:50.000-04:00And medical school admissions. A white male canno...And medical school admissions. A white male cannot get into an allopathic medical school with any certainty. The white male physicians for the next two generations, at least, will graduate from the very fine but terribly expensive Osteopathic medical schools.geosarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-41989058010046848342010-07-24T10:35:48.000-04:002010-07-24T10:35:48.000-04:00And College Admissions too. Try getting into any u...And College Admissions too. Try getting into any upper tier college if you're white, and been involved in, say, 4-H, FFA, JROTC, Civil Air Patrol, Junior Rodeo, etc.AW1 Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-12670920896456100652010-07-24T09:26:07.000-04:002010-07-24T09:26:07.000-04:00Morgan Freeman should go to the next NAACP convent...Morgan Freeman should go to the next NAACP convention and tear down the Temple walls...Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-54101624847705860462010-07-24T09:01:29.000-04:002010-07-24T09:01:29.000-04:00You should read his book on the Scot-Irish - you m...You should read his book on the Scot-Irish - you might change your mind.cdrsalamandernoreply@blogger.com