tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post6848033941244303521..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: The LCS PrimerCDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger102125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-74662525675491436212011-08-07T08:00:44.673-04:002011-08-07T08:00:44.673-04:00Well, there is a rumor going around that I laid th...Well, there is a rumor going around that I laid the keel on Noah's Ark, but I swear it ain't true! A trireme, maybe, but not the Ark! :)Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-90570471352021635382011-08-07T01:49:46.291-04:002011-08-07T01:49:46.291-04:00Happy Birthday Byron! HUZZAH!Happy Birthday Byron! HUZZAH!SCOTTtheBADGERnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-11314601881014075252011-08-06T23:15:40.016-04:002011-08-06T23:15:40.016-04:00Is there a ship in the USN older than Byron? The ...Is there a ship in the USN older than Byron? The Cape Jacob maybe, but she is headed for the Saisson bay. Great shiip and a Byron is the great ship fitter. guestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-37386881436677711532011-08-06T22:50:33.714-04:002011-08-06T22:50:33.714-04:00SIXTY?!?!?! A likely story. Anyone that could po...SIXTY?!?!?! A likely story. Anyone that could possibly have verified your age has been dead for centuries. You old b*stard. What was it like working on ironclads?<br /><br />Best wishes. UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-88836204159133030552011-08-06T22:08:18.867-04:002011-08-06T22:08:18.867-04:00And you are such a promising young man, too.And you are such a promising young man, too.Grandpa Bluewater.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-69230458079046492862011-08-06T17:57:53.130-04:002011-08-06T17:57:53.130-04:00Sat & Sun houra are 1300-1700 at Jaxksonville ...Sat & Sun houra are 1300-1700 at Jaxksonville Landing just up from the USS Adams historical ship group 904-355-1101<br /><br />http://www.jacksonvillemaritimeheritagecenter.org/leeseanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-49790083415300289452011-08-06T14:53:10.264-04:002011-08-06T14:53:10.264-04:00I am in town this weekend Lee.I am in town this weekend Lee.LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-60537431706093245962011-08-06T14:52:22.618-04:002011-08-06T14:52:22.618-04:00I went to see the USS Kidd, in Baton Rouge. I was...I went to see the USS Kidd, in Baton Rouge. I was on college swim team w/ his great (I think) grandaughter. It is a good tour going around that ship. LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-44974253339620558552011-08-06T12:24:39.501-04:002011-08-06T12:24:39.501-04:00Happy birthday Byron!
(I got you set up in Groupo...Happy birthday Byron!<br /><br />(I got you set up in Groupon for some doggie shampoos...) 8-)sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-45737748122522378942011-08-06T12:16:29.205-04:002011-08-06T12:16:29.205-04:00OMC and Byron - a double B-day wishes to both of y...OMC and Byron - a double B-day wishes to both of you!CDR Salamandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-8114826041087110572011-08-06T12:02:06.435-04:002011-08-06T12:02:06.435-04:00I turned 46 today. Flowers nor wreaths.I turned 46 today. Flowers nor wreaths.Outlaw Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-90939174074646580232011-08-06T10:36:12.358-04:002011-08-06T10:36:12.358-04:00Bryon ever note where the computing machinery was ...Bryon ever note where the computing machinery was located on SPRUANCE. 01 level above the main deck. Hanging out there in the forward superstructure. All the UYK7s, MK 86 GFCS computers. Whole combat switchboard. Just an offering to the Gods. We hid sparrow in back.<br /><br />I always that Sprucans were the ultimate in design stupidity.A certain Guestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-88553916563685061692011-08-06T09:08:37.070-04:002011-08-06T09:08:37.070-04:00Very happy birthday, Byron.Very happy birthday, Byron.DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-78798117959918174052011-08-06T08:42:23.876-04:002011-08-06T08:42:23.876-04:00Where's those young'n's that ran their...Where's those young'n's that ran their mouth so much yesterday about how cool their floating polished turd is? I turned 60 today and I'm slap damned full of it and just spoiling for serious throw down. You boys talked a lot of trash yesterday and now it's time to see if whether or not you're mocking bird mouth is really overloading your hummingbird asses today!Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-43360509611929673152011-08-05T19:55:01.793-04:002011-08-05T19:55:01.793-04:00Lee, I went from learning to cut construction aids...Lee, I went from learning to cut construction aids out of scrap to master burner in 2 years. I had a damn good teacher and God blessed me with excellent eye/hand coordination and my hands even today are steady as a rock. It's nothing special really, either the Good Lord gave it to you or he didn't. The other 5% is just the basics that I can teach in two hours.Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-6014784198639859742011-08-05T19:52:54.453-04:002011-08-05T19:52:54.453-04:00Gosh, cutting steel for an aluminum ship? Who knew...Gosh, cutting steel for an aluminum ship? Who knew....Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-87877971260037127342011-08-05T19:51:05.472-04:002011-08-05T19:51:05.472-04:00Hey, dude, don't diss NASCAR! :)Hey, dude, don't diss NASCAR! :)Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-11893942190496797322011-08-05T19:48:31.000-04:002011-08-05T19:48:31.000-04:00Sonny, did it ever occur to you that you might HAV...Sonny, did it ever occur to you that you might HAVE to ride through bad weather to accomplish your mission? The whole point of having a military means ordering people to do stuff that no right minded civilian would do in a million years, like risking my old broke down damn near 60 year old ass. I understand that "going in harms way" means there's a fair chance one of you might not make it back to the pier, truly, I do get it. I've only been reading Naval history and literature since before you were born. The whole reason why I think LCS is such a terrible ship is the fact the Navy delibarately placed good sailors in grave danger by not having enough crew to have a real damage control party who's only responsibility was to keep the ship afloat, dry, not on fire and with power to keep the ship fighting. You can ONLY DO ONE THING. That's...very bad. It was the first think I realized about LCS, and though there's a lot of other things that make this class a polished turd, it's the single most important point failure source. A warship (and don't kid yourself, sonny, LCS is a WARship) is purposely built to sail into "harms way". Let's hope you don't get to find out the hard way that the pirates you were chasing suddenly didn't turn around and bite you on the ass.Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-84428892435392134092011-08-05T19:40:43.853-04:002011-08-05T19:40:43.853-04:00It's not about the armor, though a little of t...It's not about the armor, though a little of that in the right places goes a long way; it's not about the redundacy of systems, though this a most important thing; it's about the CREW, jackass, the MOST important "system" aboard a warship, and when a ships crew is reduced below a critical point, the ship is in grave danger...especially, you BLITHERING IDIOT, when the ship and crew are being shot at and shit is breaking and there's holes letting water into the people space! A sound ship needs enough crew to fight the ship and to save the ship, because just sure as hell a warship will find itself doing both. That's if the shock of an explosion doesn't burst every ill-designed weld seam and sink this floating whorehouse where she sails!Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-55232460314648238572011-08-05T18:37:58.896-04:002011-08-05T18:37:58.896-04:00Take ME for a ride and I'll point out every la...Take ME for a ride and I'll point out every last single point-failure item on board, starting with the fact that if LCS gets into a fight, she can either do damage control or fight the ship but not both. And don't try singing that tired old song about run away...you can't outrun a 12.7 or an RPG or sure as hell not an Exocet. Besides, any serious combat guy will tell you that running just means you die tired.<br /><br />And besides that, you're an insolent snot.Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-12705596188727166442011-08-05T18:34:39.524-04:002011-08-05T18:34:39.524-04:00Can you slide them my way, Lee?Can you slide them my way, Lee?Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-56748975932343142432011-08-05T18:19:47.133-04:002011-08-05T18:19:47.133-04:00goc: they actually did it. i made a deal with the ...goc: they actually did it. i made a deal with the foreman shipfitter and grabbed the larger scraps which we took to shop 31 and used for base plates for the numerical control machine tools for several years afterwards.<br /><br />Cpknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-2877694671180162812011-08-05T18:17:44.405-04:002011-08-05T18:17:44.405-04:00B: remember this was about in 1977 and kevlar was ...B: remember this was about in 1977 and kevlar was not available in quantities then. i remember progress meetings when getting kevlar tube to split and armor some of the electronic cables and fiber optics and air lines going up the masts to the antenna farms was of real concern.<br /><br />Cpknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-21722529431378197712011-08-05T18:05:13.655-04:002011-08-05T18:05:13.655-04:00sirrah: what i meant was that the first flight of ...sirrah: what i meant was that the first flight of spruances could not and were tied up at navy yards for a couple of weeks each while shipfitters added additional aluminum plate to the sensitive areas.<br /><br />Cpknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-91158096226556866402011-08-05T14:05:53.645-04:002011-08-05T14:05:53.645-04:00Stark was dead.
Samual B Roberts was dead.
Ha...<em>Stark was dead. <br /> <br />Samual B Roberts was dead.</em><br /><br /><a href="http://warisboring.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ins-hanit-missile-damage.jpg" rel="nofollow">Hanit was not.</a><br /><br />And arguably <strong>should</strong> have been able to stay almost fully mission capable.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.ausairpower.net/HMS-Glamorgan-Damage-C.jpg" rel="nofollow">Glamorgan ate an Exocet</a> at near minimum range so it was still full of fuel too.<br /><br />It remained partially mission capable...<br /><br />And again...if there had been improvements from the nuke era "it doesn't matter anyway"... survivability enginnering in the ship, it would have fared even better.<br /><br />Indeed, if you look at the historical record, its those last two that are more representative of surface ship damage.<br /><br />But the current SWO community has rolled over on its back on the whole, and just expects to "Run Away" as a solution.<br /><br />(<em>kinda thing you'd expect from a puppy that rolls on its back and pees itself when confronted</em>)<br /><br />And, before you get started.<br /><br />Its <strong>NOT</strong> about tons of armored steel BB style. Its about smart armor where you need it. Careful engineering of HM&E in regards to placement and needed redundancy (and selective armor where it will help), sufficient crew to absorb losses and continue mission critical tasks...<br /><br />The kind of stuff that NAVSEA is intentionally <strong>NOT</strong> building into the USN ships of today.sidnoreply@blogger.com