tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post674758329646940951..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: The Flags at Horse LatitudesCDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger114125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-22232553770485169862014-03-11T02:43:39.595-04:002014-03-11T02:43:39.595-04:00view website buy valium online uk cheap - valium p...<a href="http://nisco.net/doc/#ltgrz8" rel="nofollow">view website</a> buy valium online uk cheap - valium presentation anxietyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-71151511091662608922013-05-07T00:18:11.813-04:002013-05-07T00:18:11.813-04:00If some onе neeԁs еxpeгt view conсerning blogging ...If some onе neeԁs еxpeгt view conсerning blogging then і advise him/her to viѕіt this weblog, <br />Keep up thе nice work.<br /><br />Reνiew my blog pоst - <a href="http://eloisesloans.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">Payday Loans</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-45897491181303337552013-03-20T10:28:52.300-04:002013-03-20T10:28:52.300-04:00Hi theгe, οf course this article is actually рleas...Hi theгe, οf course this article is actually рleasаnt and I have leаrneԁ lot of <br />things frοm it concerning blogging.<br />thankѕ.<br /><br />Ηave a look at my webpаge <a href="http://Mollysloans.co.uk" rel="nofollow">same day loans</a><br /><i>my webpage</i> :: <b><a href="http://Mollysloans.co.uk" rel="nofollow">same day loans</a></b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-73743059342405909092013-03-03T16:56:21.438-05:002013-03-03T16:56:21.438-05:00Τhіѕ piecе of wrіting is really a gooԁ οne іt assі...Τhіѕ piecе of wrіting is really a gooԁ οne іt assіѕts new the ωeb visitors, ωho аre wishing for blοgging.<br /><br /><br />My weblog: <a href="http://freyasloans.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">payday loans</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-32485714529111322011-01-09T09:31:03.000-05:002011-01-09T09:31:03.000-05:00I am glad this didn't come down as another exa...<em>I am glad this didn't come down as another example of why USNA should go away, just another Naval Aviator (which I was one) that thought they were above reproach.</em><br /><br />The witch hunt is just starting. I am sure after the good CAPT is keel hauled, they will say "and he was a boat school grad as well".<br /><br />Standby for heavy rolls.Redeye80noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-49566322323189713792011-01-09T09:16:24.000-05:002011-01-09T09:16:24.000-05:00No, no Guest/Troll.
The lesson from Tailhook was...No, no Guest/Troll. <br /><br />The lesson from Tailhook was "ruthlessly destroy the careers of innocent as well as guilty without regard to facts or process, in order to placate Patsy Schroeder and any other shill for special interests."<br /><br />So don't worry. The Admirals learned the lessons from Tailhook well.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-53343823169626671312011-01-09T09:12:28.000-05:002011-01-09T09:12:28.000-05:00So, let me get this straight. The lesson to be lea...So, let me get this straight. The lesson to be learned from Tailhook wasn't "Start acting like mature adults instead of sex-obsessed giggly frat boys" (which would have helped CAPT Honors), but rather "Don't snitch and protect your colleagues at all cost."<br /><br />Fail.Guestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-74814660967146631712011-01-08T14:06:25.000-05:002011-01-08T14:06:25.000-05:00Almost went to USNA but attended UCLA instead. Th...Almost went to USNA but attended UCLA instead. There's a lesson here for all of us.<br /><br />As an aside to show how much the structure of the Navy changed in my lifetime...one of the elder Morrison's Pentagon assignments was as Director of one of the Surface Programs Divisions (and, yes, it was a Surface directorate when he was there). His photo was still on the wall when I worked down the hall in OP-60.C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-70458336640372051102011-01-08T12:53:20.000-05:002011-01-08T12:53:20.000-05:00Call sign "Lizard King".Call sign "Lizard King".UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-87091707823662775862011-01-08T12:38:43.000-05:002011-01-08T12:38:43.000-05:00Damn, would have missed out on a great album! ;)Damn, would have missed out on a great album! ;)Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-23419041360890946872011-01-08T12:11:48.000-05:002011-01-08T12:11:48.000-05:00He could even land in captivity and come back hero...He could even land in captivity and come back hero, and start a political career... maybe even ending up as president?<br />As speculative as it is, it is no less probable than JFK lifepath. And countless alternative histories stem from what if he didnt survive PT-109 vs IJN DD collision...ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-40871313852480875112011-01-08T11:59:53.000-05:002011-01-08T11:59:53.000-05:00I picked it on purpose. You, no shocker, get the ...I picked it on purpose. You, no shocker, get the gold-star happy face for catching the nuance.<br /><br />Here's a bit of irony - JM almost went to Annapolis. He would have been in the class of '64/65. His personality probably would have landed him in aviation which means he would have flown as a JO in Vietnam. Tailhook would have had him at the 25 year mark - what - CAG/DCAG - maybe Big-XO or deep draft Command getting set up for CO of a CV perhaps? If not deployed, he would have been in Vegas.<br /><br />Don't laugh - it is easier for a artistically inclined hedonist with daddy & impulse control issues to get gather themselves in their mid-20s when needed and the right motivation, to pivot and make the military a career and do well.<br /><br />Ahem. Just a theory I'm working on ......<br /><br />Alternative universe.cdrsalamandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-1309938202292863912011-01-08T10:28:12.000-05:002011-01-08T10:28:12.000-05:00This is funny and sad... go read the comments at ...This is funny and sad... go read the comments at Information Dissemination. There seem to be a number of people saying he needed canned, and that I'm out of my mind for disagreeing. This is a gross travesty of justice, and they seem to think that I'm being silly in tying this incident to Galrahn's posted question 'Why are we losing so many good officers?'. Sometimes I like the discussions over there, but lately it seems like it's populated by civilians and jackwagons. clarkwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-18615672609532438492011-01-08T09:59:24.000-05:002011-01-08T09:59:24.000-05:00I remember his picture on the COMNAVMAR command p-...I remember his picture on the COMNAVMAR command p-way. His son went to Farragut Academy in St. Pete, FL as I remember.LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-79655701490730146192011-01-08T07:13:49.000-05:002011-01-08T07:13:49.000-05:00Its ironic you used a Morrison song...
I remember...Its ironic you used a Morrison song...<br /><br />I remember dad saying that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Stephen_Morrison" rel="nofollow">the elder Morrison paid for his son's antics </a>in the mid 60's...Although he made Flag, he didn't get the jobs he could have otherwise.sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-79392559433512565282011-01-08T07:12:32.000-05:002011-01-08T07:12:32.000-05:00It is deep crisis, but it isnt something unrecover...It is deep crisis, but it isnt something unrecoverable... all USN needs is a real war with a peer naval power, and priorities will quickly change from diversity and goodwill to mission and warfighting, or the navy will cease to exist and with it all of its problems.<br />Civilian background has been worse already, in the late years of Vietnam war. No ROTC bombings this time, at least...ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-86295567767477899212011-01-08T06:51:42.000-05:002011-01-08T06:51:42.000-05:00With due respect, C-dore, the changes we have had ...With due respect, C-dore, the changes we have had forced upon us are more fundamental than those of the late-70s and early 80s. Under the guise of political correctness, we have seen the dilution and marginalizing of the very ethos that wins wars and battles. Some have called it the "feminization" of the American military, and some ways that is applicable. <br /><br />Couple that with incidents like the GOFO response to Tailhook, the non-relief of Captain Graf until two command tours were near completion, and the hair-trigger relief of Capt Honor, Diversity uber alles, Optimal Manning nonsense, repeal od DADT (with the very active advocacy of Mullen), etc., and there is a massive issue of lack of trust from the mid-range officers to their seniors. Well-earned, I might add. <br /><br />We have faced some of this before. But by no means all. And not as deep into the fabric of our military culture as this.<br /><br />We have beenUltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-88065293798815109532011-01-07T22:41:29.000-05:002011-01-07T22:41:29.000-05:00Unfortunately, the nation has lost or is losing it...Unfortunately, the nation has lost or is losing its industrial base. My concern the general culture of our country has changed to such an extent that we have lost the foundation from which the military can get back on firm footing. It is not just the recruits, but the civilian leadership that will affect the military.LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-8791186803654806952011-01-07T16:48:58.000-05:002011-01-07T16:48:58.000-05:00We are surrounded by cowards and careerists. Ther...We are surrounded by cowards and careerists. There is no one without fault and those who would be the first to point fingers are often those with the greatest faults. Naval aviation has always accepted faults and eccentricities if they did not effect the mission or safety (and it helped if they aided with morale and camraderie). I have yet to find anyone who was specifically harmed by CAPT Honors. I think a great many were helped by him. These kinds of incidents take the soul out of Naval Service and make our people no different than your average 7-11 clerk. I really can't think of a Flag Officer in the last twenty years that offers any real example of charisma, character, or panache--some of the intrinsic and intangible characteristics of leadership. We lose good people and they are not replaced.<br /><br />I was looking at something else and came across this--http://www.tailhook.org/bug.htm<br /><br />A real gentelman and shipmate who cared not a wit what was or would have been politically correct.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-65372863161263611152011-01-07T16:19:55.000-05:002011-01-07T16:19:55.000-05:00URR, I might agree with you more readily had my fo...URR, I might agree with you more readily had my formative years in the Navy not been in the final years of the Vietnam War and the post-Vietnam period when trust in the leadership (both military and civilian) was low. Not only did we face reduced budgets, smaller force levels, and long deployments at the time but, quite frankly, those we were protecting didn't like us very much. There was concern at the time, as well, about the reluctance of junior naval officers to aspire to command (don't know who they were since they didn't associate with the JOs I knew). Despite this a few who kept the faith remained and some who were willing to adopt that faith signed on.<br /><br />We've been through this before (not just after Vietnam but after the Civil War and between the World Wars as well). However to discourage potential leaders from signing on will hasten that collapse from which we won't recover.C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-11168291721733842942011-01-07T15:41:29.000-05:002011-01-07T15:41:29.000-05:00<p><span><span><span>I was...<p><span><span><span>I was told recently that the four converted Ohio boats (SSGN’s) are commanded by 0-6’s as a major command tour. So I guess theoretically you could command the same boat twice albeit with two different missions.</span></span></span></p>610ETnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-49679148924350481072011-01-07T15:40:42.000-05:002011-01-07T15:40:42.000-05:00<p><span><span><span>I was...<p><span><span><span>I was told recently that the four converted Ohio boats (SSGN’s) are commanded by 0-6’s as a major command tour. So I guess theoretically you could command the same boat twice albeit with two different missions.</span></span></span></p>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-28348874380877220012011-01-07T15:21:39.000-05:002011-01-07T15:21:39.000-05:00Expendable to promote someone elses personal polit...Expendable to promote someone elses personal political rise? Really?cdrsalamandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-72124783578496608092011-01-07T15:02:19.000-05:002011-01-07T15:02:19.000-05:00<span>C-dore,
"<span>Eventua...<span>C-dore, <br /> <br />"<span>Eventually the pendulum will swing back."</span> <br /> <br />Doubtful. There are things that, once done, cannot be undone. <a href="http://blog.usni.org/2011/01/04/from-our-archive-the-silence-of-the-admirals-by-james-h-webb-jr/" rel="nofollow"> Much to James Webb's point:</a><br /> <br />"When leadership fails, sometimes a fundamental shift overtakes a unit, or a military service, or a nation, that is so profound that it can change an entire ethos." <br /> <br />Armies lose wars and nations fall, taking much lifeblood of youth with them, because of such things. Trust is not on a pendulum. Once lost, it is generations before it can be re-established.</span>UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-43416009698998093882011-01-07T15:01:06.000-05:002011-01-07T15:01:06.000-05:00C-dore,
"<span>Eventually the pendulum...C-dore,<br /><br />"<span>Eventually the pendulum will swing back."</span><br /><br />Doubtful. There are things that, once done, cannot be undone. Much to James Webb's point:<br /><br />"When leadership fails, sometimes a fundamental shift overtakes a unit, or a military service, or a nation, that is so profound that it can change an entire ethos."<br /><br />Armies lose wars and nations fall, taking much lifeblood of youth with them, because of such things. Trust is not on a pendulum. Once lost, it is generations before it can be re-established.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.com