tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post6259363906057785990..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: SUPSHIPS adopts the Salamander ProgramCDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-61261358254121475712010-08-01T03:26:01.022-04:002010-08-01T03:26:01.022-04:00I would like to exchange links with your site www....I would like to exchange links with your site www.blogger.com<br />Is this possible?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-44687421507278618152010-07-22T12:38:09.000-04:002010-07-22T12:38:09.000-04:00"<span>You don't get that sort of ..."<span>You don't get that sort of "sea smart" by pushing a DVD into a computer, do you?"</span><br /><br />Of course you do. At a fraction of the cost. With the diversity/global warming/force for good messages mixed in....UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-37419432766057982612010-07-22T12:33:06.000-04:002010-07-22T12:33:06.000-04:00That nicely encapsulates it.
My USS FIRSTSHIP OSC...That nicely encapsulates it.<br /><br />My USS FIRSTSHIP OSC used to randomly ask me to empty my pockets while we were somewhere on the bounding main. He'd then tell me sea stories, which were actually "training the new Ensign without him knowing" sessions on how, I had "the right stuff," or I was missing some essential item(s) that would be highly useful were I to part ways with the vessel in an unplanned fashion. Experience and judgement grew from these moments. I'm sure I was but one of many junior officers Chief Mac made a difference with.<br /><br />I also watched him, not being a man of big words, run an extremely effective CIC Team, ET Shop, and how he intereacted with the Mess, and the rest of the OPS Dept and the crew. You don't get that sort of "sea smart" by pushing a DVD into a computer, do you?xformednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-57958682559431235272010-07-22T11:30:25.000-04:002010-07-22T11:30:25.000-04:00Grandpa, if you ever make it to Singletons, we'...Grandpa, if you ever make it to Singletons, we'll all buy a beer or three.Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-16203799331481217392010-07-22T08:50:04.000-04:002010-07-22T08:50:04.000-04:00One of the remarks in the basic posting which caug...One of the remarks in the basic posting which caught my attention is the one about eliminating the junior people and never catching wise to the fact that what is being eliminated is the ability to train and bring up the incumbents' successors. Eventually, the inevitable takes its course, and a crash program to improve training and inject new blood will get jury rigged under forced draft, but what is lost is the thousand little items unteachable from computers and books (developing "feel" for the use of feeler guages to take diesel engine blower clearances, for example). This can be hidden by new gear until it gets about a decade of wear on it and the expertise once routinely expected is largely dissipated.<br /><br />What is also occurs is the loss of judgement human relations, like how to train up a rookie, keep a team with mixed experience motivated and productive while avoiding the basic errors which are usually what are fatal to sailors and equipment.<br /><br />The worst loss is the appreciation for the cost of losing experience in creating experience and good judgement in others. The sad thing is that experience and good judgement are priceless, and largely unquantifiable and thus ignored... until you leave a diesel engine turning from the gear train it's clutched into without lube oil pressure, or send Task Force Smith to blunt a major offensive without trained private soldiers, or have a kid go over the side in a blue "camo" uniform - and the lookout doesn't know to "point" the man, and the kid can't dump his chukka style steel toed shoes because he's wearing combat boots and can't get his bell bottoms off and blow them up, because he can't get the straight leg pants off over the combat boots in 4 foot seas..<br /><br />The sea still lies in wait....Grandpa Bluewaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-66895706360001663922010-07-21T19:59:42.000-04:002010-07-21T19:59:42.000-04:00Give us a yell if you're ever here in Gator co...Give us a yell if you're ever here in Gator country, C-dore!Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-34856262023293347502010-07-21T19:07:14.000-04:002010-07-21T19:07:14.000-04:00Further, we need to re-establish a culture in whic...Further, we need to re-establish a culture in which it is okay (even, if I may dream, one in which khaki are *expected*) to run candid, real-world feedback up the chain of command. Coming from the frigate world, I've seen a lot of Kool-Ade guzzling, even as the billets were taken away, as "can-do" spirit went too far. Some examples: <br /> 1) Three section duty in homeport (due, in part, to some vestigal-but-mandated FP watchstations). <br /> 2) all-hands field-daying of Engineering spaces -- a page out of the "work it may, shine it must" playbook. <br /> 3) Pencil-whipping of that devil of a program, TORIS/TFOM, with the full knowledge of (and sometimes at the suggestion from) ATG themselves when the SMD could not even support a full two-section U/W watchbill, even with small training teams.FCCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-39288179312756831002010-07-21T17:58:47.000-04:002010-07-21T17:58:47.000-04:00As long as the beer is cold...I can find a way to ...As long as the beer is cold...I can find a way to pad in just like a stray cat...<br /><br />Actually I could even deal if the beer is tepid.sidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-35786878275229249922010-07-21T17:29:23.000-04:002010-07-21T17:29:23.000-04:00Ummmm...Singleton's...Ummmm...Singleton's...C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-7289996745092897272010-07-21T16:44:15.000-04:002010-07-21T16:44:15.000-04:00Yeah, I always did wonder why you did dumb things ...Yeah, I always did wonder why you did dumb things like put one grinding wheel (for a very small die grinder, about 2" in diam.) in one little plastic bag with its own NSN. Great gig you got going.Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-21600993837844432272010-07-21T15:55:29.000-04:002010-07-21T15:55:29.000-04:00I can get you 2,500+ billets tomorrow by civiliani...I can get you 2,500+ billets tomorrow by civilianizing or eliminating the Supply Corps (SC) billets ashore, turn over JO ship tours to senior LCPOs, and making SC department heads and above line officers. Count me as a reformed Suppo who now realizes very clearly that the Navy doesn't revolve around the SC and that the working capital fund that the SC uses to fund their logistics operations hides some major inefficient operations throughout the Navy. Ask any RPPO aboard ship about the cost of parts/supplies. Navy Supponoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-8618887848389941032010-07-21T15:31:09.000-04:002010-07-21T15:31:09.000-04:00That is not correct, Anon. We weren't asked t...That is not correct, Anon. We weren't asked to provide IAs. We volunteered. Instead of saying that what we were providing to the GWOT was flexible strike packages, MEUs, sea basing, control of the sea lanes and the assurance that China, Iran and North Korea wouldn't take advantage of the situation, we instead decided to negate the work of our entire navy and throw down our entire GWOT support to SEALs, EOD and 10k IA's.Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-11455245565756120322010-07-21T14:45:37.000-04:002010-07-21T14:45:37.000-04:00Thanks. Lived it and was constatntly amazed when ...Thanks. Lived it and was constatntly amazed when some very smart E-8/9s/LDO of mine were told they didn't understand AEGIS. That was the training side. Later I was the guy who had the RAN Project Officer (who managed the FFG-7 CS program at FCDSSA) who had to figure out how to strip it to the bone at the behest of the NAVSEA sponsors, when the SM-2 project needed about $20M all of a sudden. And that was mid90s, for a platform we still use.xformednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-73123785972711082252010-07-21T14:36:43.000-04:002010-07-21T14:36:43.000-04:00<span>YNSN,
I wish that were so. I could...<span>YNSN, <br /> <br />I wish that were so. I could live with that. But the 10k IAs doing "soldier things" will get cut from the Navy, and the Army will still get cut 5k. <br /> <br />That is what the tea leaves say, anyway.</span>UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-37142468540725195952010-07-21T14:36:23.000-04:002010-07-21T14:36:23.000-04:00YNSN,
I wish that were so. I could live with tha...YNSN,<br /><br />I wish that were so. I could live with that. But the 10k IAs doing "solider things" will get cut from the Navy, and the Army will still get cut 5k. <br /><br />That is what the tea leaves say, anyway.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-88153341347329932010-07-21T13:57:49.000-04:002010-07-21T13:57:49.000-04:00I heard an interesting arguement on why we keep su...I heard an interesting arguement on why we keep supporting the IAs, and in the crazy political world of Big Navy and Washington D.C. it makes sense. If we were to say we can't/won't support then we could loose funding - not sure what or how much. And we all know how everyone loves $$$.Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-9973412031454209262010-07-21T13:42:02.000-04:002010-07-21T13:42:02.000-04:00I have to ride 10 over to that area.I have to ride 10 over to that area.LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-35241926726088127872010-07-21T12:47:36.000-04:002010-07-21T12:47:36.000-04:00If the Admiral fixes what needs to be fixed... I&#...If the Admiral fixes what needs to be fixed... I'll cover his tab too.YNSNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-28485906364907203172010-07-21T12:42:16.000-04:002010-07-21T12:42:16.000-04:00When the chopping block comes down, and the Navy m...When the chopping block comes down, and the Navy made due with 10k fewer Sailors doing Sailor things, and the Army needed that 10k to do Soldier things... Which side will Congress err on? <br /><br />methinks they will get the extra 10k, and we who did without, will lose those bodies.YNSNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-77886963842673051042010-07-21T11:52:07.000-04:002010-07-21T11:52:07.000-04:00Yeah, you could do the rocket ride up 4 and then 9...Yeah, you could do the rocket ride up 4 and then 95...maybe do it inside where there's AC? I could live without the "ambience" of salt water, oyster shells and dead fish :)Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-73770346344874554382010-07-21T11:42:59.000-04:002010-07-21T11:42:59.000-04:00I just need a place to park my bike. Have to hold...I just need a place to park my bike. Have to hold the next visit when it's not so damned hot. LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-7177134668385231322010-07-21T11:28:51.000-04:002010-07-21T11:28:51.000-04:00And since we're talking about NAVSEA and Singl...And since we're talking about NAVSEA and Singletons, make sure they include cab fare for the locals like me and limo service to the airport (and of course airfare!) for the likes of Sid and Lt. B. Be nice to cough up the coin to fly the offical Navy Grandmother, Maggie down here from Boston, too :)Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-19998933748418930962010-07-21T11:24:57.000-04:002010-07-21T11:24:57.000-04:00Depends on where you're at. Ask any ship that&...Depends on where you're at. Ask any ship that's had maintainence at Mayport and find out what they think of the work here. We have lot's of SUPSHIP on the deck plates, and 99% are damn good people. We always have a good relationship with the ship and NAVSEA with the idea of A) making the customer happy, B) making a profit, and C) making sure the ships get's what it need (or as close to it as the budget will allow.Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-58886695014365701562010-07-21T11:21:05.000-04:002010-07-21T11:21:05.000-04:00And I meant the last 3 CNOs. I forgot to enumerat...And I meant the last 3 CNOs. I forgot to enumerate. LT Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-54612686622359948662010-07-21T10:41:29.000-04:002010-07-21T10:41:29.000-04:00Well, looks like someone is finally starting to ge...Well, looks like someone is finally starting to get it. Too bad much damage has already been done. This begs the question "how could a bunch who make such poor decisions have ever risen to the level where their poor decisions have systemic Navy wide effects?" Our force is a direct reflection of our senior leadership, and if the Navy is in poor shape (which I believe it is), it can be attributed directly to poor leadership.<br /><br />We need structural reform. Fewer flags, fewer staffs, less complicated chains of command, fewer working groups, warfare improvement programs, committees, cross warfare specialty teams, executive councils, groups, etc... building power points, taking minutes, and creating requirements for gadgets.<br /><br />We need more Sailors, enlisted and officer, on ships, airplanes, and submarines turning wrenches, fighting corrosion, learning and teaching their trades, using, testing, mastering their systems and subsystems, and being generally effective at the things we as a Navy do in the real world on, under, and over the worlds seas and oceans.GIMPnoreply@blogger.com