tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post5890732275284992053..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: Wikileaks: Chock Full o'NutsCDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-34885229941462680822010-04-14T13:33:15.000-04:002010-04-14T13:33:15.000-04:00QM, Been tried before without much result (see &qu...QM, Been tried before without much result (see "Pentagon Papers" item above).C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-4694602472700065152010-04-13T23:58:43.000-04:002010-04-13T23:58:43.000-04:00Addendum: Tim, maybe you should direct surefoot to...Addendum: Tim, maybe you should direct surefoot to Doc B's comments. I'm sure he would find them quite enlightening... {/snark}Casey Tompkinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-56664050474479077882010-04-13T23:50:56.000-04:002010-04-13T23:50:56.000-04:00Surefoot, this may come as a surprise to you, but ...Surefoot, this may come as a surprise to you, but the Apache pilots had no idea there were children in that van. What they did know was that it did <b><i>not</i></b> have any "first responder" marking; neither a red crescent nor a red cross. There have been at least a few updates from various blogs (sorry, didn't bookmark 'em; try MyPetJawa or Confederate Yankee) which tend to indicate the same van was seen earlier <i>dropping off</i> insurgents.<br /><br />...And I hate to break it to you, but the kids were <b><i>not</i></b> killed. They were in fact taken to US medical facilities where they were successfully treated for their wounds.<br /><br />...And the "civilians collect[ing] their dead bit? The soldiers in question saw an unmarked van loading armed, wounded insurgents. That's a valid target, <i>amigo</i>.Casey Tompkinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-49713430684082305372010-04-13T19:30:05.000-04:002010-04-13T19:30:05.000-04:00NYT and WaPo should be prosecuted for receiving th...NYT and WaPo should be prosecuted for receiving the stolen stuff. They'll keep enabling if they don't feel the sting themselves. It's past time to make a few martyrs of Journalists.Quartermasternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-46867110224946691472010-04-12T23:48:17.000-04:002010-04-12T23:48:17.000-04:00 In that video, there are NO civilians. there are ... In that video, there are NO civilians. there are terrorists and terrorist enablers. It is only later that two are "journalists", however, that term is usually applied to AP or Reuters stringers who are, as often as not, working WITH the terrorists while using their cover as journalists to gather intel on Coalition forces.<br /><br /> What idiot brings children to a combat zone? They were as likely there to BE killed in order to give the terrorists more faux news of American atrocities.<br /><br /> I have no feelings towards those who were killed. I have some very SEVERE feelings towards those who leaked this video and those who posted it. It's release and posting is indefensible.AW1 Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-36148582606396838282010-04-12T23:30:10.000-04:002010-04-12T23:30:10.000-04:00<span>
Why should this video be a secret a ...<span><br /><br />Why should this video be a secret a document? I see a lot of comments doing their best to justify the inhuman killing of children in that van. There no need for pointing blame though, as you get older and you see children playing, all that may come to mind may be a day in a battle. We need better combat training it is OK to stop shooting sometimes and let the civilians collect their dead.<br /><span></span></span>surefootnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-75360484280346767232010-04-12T20:06:20.000-04:002010-04-12T20:06:20.000-04:00Fact: Never, ever cross AR.Fact: Never, ever cross AR.cdrsalamandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-12611493065385845192010-04-12T18:24:59.000-04:002010-04-12T18:24:59.000-04:00As someone who lived through the whole "Penta...As someone who lived through the whole "Pentagon Papers" thing and the flap surrounding Frank Snepp's <span>Decent Interval</span>, I predict much hyperventilating with little actual punishment.C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-17303257009672670582010-04-12T17:36:33.000-04:002010-04-12T17:36:33.000-04:00I just love that Julian whatever his name is feels...I just love that Julian whatever his name is feels he's being "persecuted". Oh boo hoo....I facilitated a crime and now they are bothering me. derp derp derp.ActusRhesusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-84235368509562842372010-04-12T17:14:45.000-04:002010-04-12T17:14:45.000-04:00Let us hope that the guilty are outed and dealt wi...Let us hope that the guilty are outed and dealt with appropriately. However, that doesn't ever seemed to have deterred the NYT, or WashPo, etc.AW1 Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-84131386406745665722010-04-12T17:03:47.000-04:002010-04-12T17:03:47.000-04:00Fact: whoever gave them that video violated US law...Fact: whoever gave them that video violated US law.<br /><br />Fact: when US law enforcement learns that US law has been violated, they tend to investigate.<br /><br />Fact: This often involves surveillance.<br /><br />So...ActusRhesusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-23982321165961148242010-04-12T16:41:28.000-04:002010-04-12T16:41:28.000-04:00Blackfive has a short bit about releasing classifi...Blackfive has a short bit about releasing classified info. You can read it here:<br /><br />http://www.blackfive.net/main/2010/04/uber-pigs-policy-on-leaks-and-protection-of-sources.html#comments<br /><br />Read Doc B's comments. He was there and comments about how this affects him.AW1 Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-61829450945159456542010-04-12T15:55:36.000-04:002010-04-12T15:55:36.000-04:00You know. slashdot.com asked the question how the...You know. slashdot.com asked the question how they decrypted the video. No one knows how they did that.YNSNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-37369188624667177222010-04-12T14:54:04.000-04:002010-04-12T14:54:04.000-04:00oh, and about that Wikileaks murder of journalists...oh, and about that Wikileaks murder of journalists video from last week. Saint Petersburg Times referenced it in a sidebar to the recent "intelligent drone" development story in a Sunday OpEd article. No mention of the journalists being embeded with irregulars. No mention of the ambvush formation. Thank's to the Cdr Sal blog for outing that crap slander and btw, my letter to the editor of SPT to lenghty to post here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-73725811997043880272010-04-12T14:30:13.000-04:002010-04-12T14:30:13.000-04:00It would be one thing if I could go there and pull...It would be one thing if I could go there and pull up documents from Canada, Ireland, China, Japan, ummm.. Botswana.<br /><br />But, no.<br /><br />It is all US documents. With a few useless documents form anywhere else. Until I see substantive documents from other Nations as well, I will call them bias and an enemy.YNSNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-63400745277280396562010-04-12T12:21:23.000-04:002010-04-12T12:21:23.000-04:00The left has always been paranoid. Whenever THEY ...The left has always been paranoid. Whenever THEY set out to destroy conservatives they consider it the height of patriotism. Whenever conservatives, or anyone else, fight back it's a subversive conspiracy. <br /><br />Proud plank owner of the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" that first opposed putting politicians and bureaucrats in charge of healthcare. Old NFOnoreply@blogger.com