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Guest is a through and through coward who ...Salty,<br /><br />Guest is a through and through coward who tries to avoid looking at his own soul by pretending he is above it all. But he knows. Just before he closes his eyes at night, he knows. So no matter how much he verbally degrades those who have the courage he lacks, he can never quite escape that streak of yellow that will keep him from doing anything of consequence in his sad and trivial life.<br /><br />But that's just me, Mister Vegas... ;)UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-77528968291492893492010-11-19T16:36:34.000-05:002010-11-19T16:36:34.000-05:00Guest, Witty response and about what I'd expec...Guest, Witty response and about what I'd expect from someone who considers those who defend you "suckers". Thanks for proving Salty Gator's and URR's points.C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-12973263892329434992010-11-19T16:34:54.000-05:002010-11-19T16:34:54.000-05:00Guest, Witty response, and about what I'd expe...Guest, Witty response, and about what I'd expect from someone who considers those of us who defend the rest "suckers". Thanks for Salty Gator's and URR's points.C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-28792239865007325152010-11-19T15:53:38.000-05:002010-11-19T15:53:38.000-05:00Guest, Spoken like a true pseudo-intellectual who ...Guest, Spoken like a true pseudo-intellectual who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-77324431195423128482010-11-18T19:22:41.000-05:002010-11-18T19:22:41.000-05:00Alpha Check, is that you?!Alpha Check, is that you?!Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-85291349053996214872010-11-18T19:21:43.000-05:002010-11-18T19:21:43.000-05:00By the time I left, my men and women were tight wi...By the time I left, my men and women were tight with me like a military unit. We did hail and fairwells, celebrated each other's birthdays (they bought me a huge birthday cake and folks came in--off-shift--to give it to me and sing happy birthday. damn near made me lose it (upper management fainted when they heard that). I was the first in, the last out. We would frequently raid supply lockers for cold weather gear, equipment that we "weren't allowed to have", and implemented techniques that "weren't always blessed." Our results spoke for themselves, and the workers loved us and their jobs even though they were getting paid less. We had PRIDE. But I wasn't the only one who was doing this. My airline made a big push to hire only young former military officers for a year, and we all pretty much had these same results.<br />Within 2 years, 99% of all the former military officers had left the company. The upper management and other mid-level management was threatened by us and was making our lives difficult. They found new and improved ways to jam our initiatives, to insert themselves on our CEO commissioned studies, and to alter our relationships with our men and women. The results speak for themselves. That airline is a bag of ass. And my former military officer friends are kicking ass and taking names in other industries, government, DEFENSE (some of us came home), and back in uniform (some REALLY went home).Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-82693834381842248052010-11-18T19:14:19.000-05:002010-11-18T19:14:19.000-05:00<p>- LEADERSHIP: the union folks may have h...<p>- LEADERSHIP: the union folks may have had their own hierarchical structure, but in my zone, I ran the shop. I was loyal to my men and women, and in turn, they were loyal to me. I demanded the best but I gave the best in return, and when it came time for a thrashing, I never threw anyone under the bus. Shit may flow downstream, but it will hit me first, and I will decide who it will hit next (and it will only be from me)<br /></p><p>- LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT: I made the union leaders actually take charge like Senior NCO's. They did, and it worked great.<br /></p><p>- TECHNOLOGY: Hey, big surprise! I actually agree with one thing you said. You gotta get with the times. But guess what, and read below<br /></p><p>- TRAINING: Your people need to be TRAINED on this latest technology, know why it is important, and know why it will help them do their jobs better (if it doesn't, then WHY ARE YOU WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME?!)<br /></p><p>- TECHNICAL COMPETENCY: Personally investing in WHAT YOUR MEN DO, KNOWING HOW THEY DO IT (you don't have to do it better than they do but you need to understand what it takes to get their jobs done in the time you have provided to them), getting them the gear they need, and soliciting feedback and how things are going. You can only achieve your own personal technical competency by having YOUR MEN TRAIN YOU. Why not? We do it in the Navy all the time. It's called Surface Warfare Officer PQS. IF you only went to an officer to get your PQS signed off on (or for explanations), you should turn in your SWO pin before you leave today.<br /></p><p>I know a man who did all of these things at his shipyard, NASCO, and it worked GREAT while he was there. Not everyone does that and it shows. The United States Navy believes that great leaders can turn any crew into superstars. THAT is our JOB as Naval Officers. We can't cry that it's not fair, we don't have a turn-key Battle E team! So why does the civilians in shipbuilding try to do the same? Nice try. BE A LEADER.<br /></p>Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-51337049112071620042010-11-18T19:14:09.000-05:002010-11-18T19:14:09.000-05:00Guest, sit down on my knee, it's time for stor...Guest, sit down on my knee, it's time for story hour. Once upon a time, actually a few years ago, Salty Gator was a newly medical'd out former navy SWO junior officer who went to work for a major fortune 500 company (US Airline) in management. This airline was getting ready to emerge from bankruptcy and had just robbed its union employees of all the cool benefits that they were used to over the past 50 years. Needless to say, the management blamed the union for the company going tits up and likewise the union blamed management for that and for "robbing them." The environment was positively horrific. I walked into an absolute disaster at a major hub airport and had to un-screw a very busy zone. By the time I left, which was under 6 months, our efficiencies had improved by over 60%, and we held the record on single day performance. Why?Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-40299392911609543482010-11-18T19:00:18.000-05:002010-11-18T19:00:18.000-05:00right on, Ham! When you treat management as a Chi...right on, Ham! When you treat management as a Chinese Menu (i'll take a beef with broccoli, a pint of general tso's Lean Six Sigma, and a side order of TQM), you get disaster.Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-3480746362914347162010-11-18T18:58:05.000-05:002010-11-18T18:58:05.000-05:00Guest, you're probably one of those fruitcakes...Guest, you're probably one of those fruitcakes who equates patriotism with paying your taxes every year, aren't you? Good work having a village raise your children, too, shipwreck.Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-17029056222781506072010-11-18T18:56:28.000-05:002010-11-18T18:56:28.000-05:00huh? consult your constitution and post again.huh? consult your constitution and post again.Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-87363059326594437252010-11-18T16:45:56.000-05:002010-11-18T16:45:56.000-05:00C-dore.
"<span>the taxpayers got more t...C-dore.<br />"<span>the taxpayers got more than their money's worth from me." coupled with </span><span>"There's a sucker born every minute." is pretty good comedy. ;) </span>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-46899823141576831792010-11-18T16:44:46.000-05:002010-11-18T16:44:46.000-05:00"<span>you seem to confuse constitution..."<span>you seem to confuse constitutionally authorized, mandated even, services like the military with welfare. "</span><br />The military is not mandated. It's restricted to a two year funding cycle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-69921832262777548582010-11-17T23:33:46.000-05:002010-11-17T23:33:46.000-05:00Oh and if your paying attention USNI has had off a...Oh and if your paying attention USNI has had off and on various articles in Proceedings talking about why shipbuilding in the US has sucked. Most of them don't blame the yards or the yardbirds (though a few admited there was a need to clean up the hiring side of the sub-sub contractors). Rather the blame was laid on the US government basically regulating the industry into the ground.<br />OH and to take Skippy's favorite target right now cause of MARAD and FMC, the us maritime industry is living the same way that AMTRAK is. Strictly off subsisdies from the government teat, which aren't going to last long.<br /><br />I am not a complete expert in this industry from either the management or worker side of shipyards. I only know what I have read in the various trade journals for the industry. I would love to know your experience levels and your reasons fro saying that the three major yard compaines are unwilling to upgrade and use new tech; or that yardbirds are unwilling to use new tech or upgrade thier skill sets in general.Southern Air Piratenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-87641897913897558912010-11-17T23:26:16.000-05:002010-11-17T23:26:16.000-05:00See the Jones Acts of the 1920s. That was the firs...See the Jones Acts of the 1920s. That was the first knife into the shipbuilding industry and stinks of protectionism for the Merchant Marine side. The Merchant Marine Act of 1936 that designated the Maritime Commission who decided on what sort of ships the Government bought and subsidy what sort of ships were going to be built; this bureaucracy then born <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Maritime_Administration" rel="nofollow">MARAD</a> and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Federal_Maritime_Commission" rel="nofollow">US FMC</a> of which have added layers upon layers of regulations prior to any major civilian ship building program be decided. If this is your first freaking time at this blog, the military side is jacked up 8 kabillion, zillion ways to yesterday; just look at the CDR's posts on LPD-17, Crappy Ship Little, DD(X), etc. Okay that is the bureaucracy side.<br />Then we have the US Capital Gains tax which has basically made it unprofitable for any major US based shipper to own any ships other then the inter-coastal shipping. Of which if you look at any of the inter-coastal types most of them are at the 40yr mark since they were built or older. Since it ios cheaper to pay for up keep until the damn thing sinks at the pier (again fallout from the Jones Act). If you add in various other federal corporate and excise tax laws. The profits levels of building here to sell to home based international ship building companies like....; oh that is right the US DOESN'T HAVE ANY HOME BASE INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING COMPANIES! So why go overseas (to the US yards) when it is cheaper to stay home and build in your own backyard?<br />Final things that have been the knife in the ship building industry is this separate federal entities and their related laws like the EPA, Department of Commerce, Department of Energy, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Labor, various other groups. Some of which are competing with each other like the FDA's anti-cheese and the department of Agriculture pro cheese thing. If you have tried to navigate the bureaucracy of government (which is fun at all levels), a company can only do so much before it throws up its hands.Southern Air Piratenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-87122982952249701942010-11-17T18:34:07.000-05:002010-11-17T18:34:07.000-05:00Guest, I know that you probably don't care but...Guest, I know that you probably don't care but I'd be glad to explain the concepts of "pay and allowances for services rendered" and "conditions of service" to you. Not that I feel guilty or hypocritical since the taxpayers got more than their money's worth from me.C-dore 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-29277992866919472652010-11-17T16:43:14.000-05:002010-11-17T16:43:14.000-05:00You don't want answers, "Guest" (nic...You don't want answers, "Guest" (nice being able to hide behind an anonymous label like guest, isn't it?) You just want to be intelligent and awe everyone. Me? I'm just a simple shipfitter still working at his trade since 1971. You? Be careful out in the next rainstorm, your nose is so high in the air you might drown, you pompous ass.<br /><br />Denoument: My dad always told me that you never argue with a fool, you just nod your head and say, "Uh huh". So, "Uh huh".<br /><br />/ignore GuestByronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-6296821857519179312010-11-17T15:16:54.000-05:002010-11-17T15:16:54.000-05:00<span>These processes were constructed with ...<i><span>These processes were constructed with respect to their corporate cultures and with extreme technical knowledge and competancy of those businessmen who designed and implemented them.</span></i><br /><br />No doubt true -- which is exactly the opposite of how TQM, LSS,<i> et al</i> were implemented in the government, namely, as ill-fitting "bolt-ons" to existing TTP's and processes, primarily to provide bullet points for FITREPs in lieu of useful change.Grumpy Old Hamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-88832150204950510112010-11-17T15:05:31.000-05:002010-11-17T15:05:31.000-05:00Guest,
Why don't you try getting some of that...Guest,<br /><br />Why don't you try getting some of that "welfare"? <br /><br />It does come with the proviso that you serve anywhere and everywhere they tell you, and can be killed or wounded in those places. <br /><br />Give it a try. A little more obligation than going to the welfare office.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-80829008557658879512010-11-17T15:00:05.000-05:002010-11-17T15:00:05.000-05:00"<span> you watch your mouth." or..."<span> you watch your mouth." or what? You'll say watch your mouth again? I'm shaking in fear. Go be a bully elsewhere. </span><br /><br /><span>You're the kind of person that gives the rest of us a reputation for being dogmatic bullies. Bricklaying is a noble profession, but I don't know too many homeowners that want to pay to have nobility lay bricks.</span>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-24731479631799092952010-11-17T14:56:37.000-05:002010-11-17T14:56:37.000-05:00<span>SG,</span>
<span>"suc...<span>SG,</span><br /><span>"such disdain for the workforce" The proof is in the results. I wish the US could get self identified dinosaurs to stop looking at modern production with the disdain demonstrated in the thread, but that isn't going to happen. Everyone wants to blame the other side. From the union perspective, it's management. From management's perspective its the unions. I do love it when people talk about how great they are in the face of all their business leaving them. If Byron is so awesome, why is his industry going out of business?</span>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-44369647631155307852010-11-17T12:08:38.000-05:002010-11-17T12:08:38.000-05:00Guest, such disdain for the workforce usually deno...Guest, such disdain for the workforce usually denotes a lack of leadership ability: the disdain is borne from an inability to lead and produce results. So, like a liberal elitist (I had to go political, sorry guys), you'll blame the people for not being "smart enough" to recognize your superior intellect and blindly follow you as you create your version of uptopia.<br /><br />Sorry, Shipwreck! This is America!Salty Gatornoreply@blogger.com