tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post426094385995422330..comments2024-01-03T05:18:54.650-05:00Comments on CDR Salamander: CNO Goes Salamander on Ship NumbersCDR Salamanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05981221786954902349noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-327053337763755562012-02-09T18:45:18.478-05:002012-02-09T18:45:18.478-05:00What about the concept of the United States Armed ...What about the concept of the United States Armed Services ??<br /><br />The word "service" means _________.<br /><br />So, let's consider unmarried E-1 to E-4 and 0-1 to O-3 as doing "service" to their country for the first 4 or 5 years.<br /><br />They "serve" their country for 4-5 years at very low pay and live modestly, without tax free BAH while single.<br /><br />The Armed SERVICES ...... or is that all a distant and antiquated idea now ??Retired Nownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-86363399145734537752012-02-09T10:45:44.455-05:002012-02-09T10:45:44.455-05:00One interesting effect housing allowances has on a...One interesting effect housing allowances has on a heavily military area is it messes with everyone's prices. Because the military personnel get that much tax-free extra for housing, the prices go up across the board. Which then leads to the military NEEDING that extra money to have off-base housing. If you don't get that allowance.. well..... oh well.DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-39540129706781574692012-02-08T23:24:26.474-05:002012-02-08T23:24:26.474-05:00You sure can cut those benefits.
Cutting pay and...You sure can cut those benefits. <br /><br />Cutting pay and cutting retirement benefits have been on the table for a long time. UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-39758098895572499552012-02-08T23:12:48.599-05:002012-02-08T23:12:48.599-05:00Too late now. You simply cannot take away privileg...Too late now. You simply cannot take away privileges you've already handed out for some time without making it look like you are depriving them of a right. You might as well propose cutting their pay.arkhangelsknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-77370974175481820152012-02-08T21:15:57.296-05:002012-02-08T21:15:57.296-05:00The way NOT to attack total personel costs: great...The way NOT to attack total personel costs: greatly reduce the crew size on very busy warships. <br /><br />Obviously the way to curtail crew costs is to stop things like giving each sailor BAH (tax free) if they are single in port. What we did back in the 60's and 70's, a lot of bachelors would get together and share rent of some modest apartment / house. Now-a-days, every sailor takes their BAH, and goes out and lives (fairly nicely) off ship. Might as well, they get up to $2,000 + per month tax free even for Petty Officers !<br /><br />Here's what NOT to do: put a 145 person crew total on each 15,000 ton DDG-1000. That includes the Helo Dets.<br />Navy should ask USCG what happens when they put a 140 to 150 person crew on their brand new 4,100 ton National NSC cutters ?<br /><br />Look at recent errors: too small crews on deploying DDG, CG, LCS. Reduced crew manning under the excuse of ship automation is just not working like some leaders and bean counters had hoped. Retired Nownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-70438331486143938532012-02-08T20:58:24.683-05:002012-02-08T20:58:24.683-05:00Paraphrasing a President from first half of last C...Paraphrasing a President from first half of last Century:<br /><br /> Can't we just buy one ship for each coast, and let the boys take turns sailing each ship ?<br /><br /> Modern Update: replace "boys" with "boys and girls". Retired Nownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-78324654059625097502012-02-08T19:50:31.208-05:002012-02-08T19:50:31.208-05:00Bingo. Personnel costs as a function of loaded la...Bingo. Personnel costs as a function of loaded labor rate should be consistent with pay rate. If they are not, something is badly wrong. Wild guess what it is.... (Phib gets gold star)UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-35830968338292722432012-02-08T18:32:21.873-05:002012-02-08T18:32:21.873-05:00Personnel costs only rise because we let them rise...Personnel costs only rise because we let them rise. If you knew the things the VA spends money on ... and then claims poverty to help actually medical problems - your head would explode.cdrsalamandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-73818432194267740502012-02-08T17:26:43.491-05:002012-02-08T17:26:43.491-05:00Seems like the only hope is some nearly miraculous...Seems like the only hope is some nearly miraculous improvements in automation. Personnel costs seem to inexorably rise and will eat the budget. No politician will vote to reduce pay and benefits, so the only option is reduction in #s. Perhaps a miracle will occur there.<br /><br />Another area to hope for a miracle is ship-building. Again maybe some miraculous automation tech will emerge that makes ship-building vastly cheaper. Wouldn't count on it though.<br /><br />Seems a lot of the strategy of western nations these days is to just ... hope a miracle occurs.juannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-58308224976570617102012-02-08T13:59:18.573-05:002012-02-08T13:59:18.573-05:00Sal, do you have a standalone page somewhere that ...Sal, do you have a standalone page somewhere that outlines Plan Salamander?A Nonny Mousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15918159785589289990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-80515940423888859382012-02-08T11:08:10.962-05:002012-02-08T11:08:10.962-05:00I WAS GOING TO CALL IT THE THREADBARE 30s. You be...I WAS GOING TO CALL IT THE THREADBARE 30s. You beat me to it! Hmmph.DeltaBravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-70162344849081768732012-02-08T10:33:24.147-05:002012-02-08T10:33:24.147-05:00And his predecessor's predecessor?And his predecessor's predecessor?UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-60943779273079450172012-02-08T10:19:13.671-05:002012-02-08T10:19:13.671-05:00What number will the Navy say the current shipbuil...What number will the Navy say the current shipbuilding plan will give us? I axed dem da question at USNI West, (a post yet to be written, BTW) and was told "as far as we know, it is still 313", with an acknowledgement that there is no real intellectual rigor going into the hi-lo mix calculations. <br /><br />We will be lucky to have 275 in actual commission by October. I cannot see the current shipbuilding plan yielding a Navy larger than 215-225 combatants at the end of the Terrible 20s. That said, I would not be surprised to see 185 if they use the 215-225 figure as the next benchmark to calculate massive cuts.UltimaRatioRegisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-11391377235353695592012-02-08T10:03:49.836-05:002012-02-08T10:03:49.836-05:00Hopefully we wont have to share ships with the Bri...Hopefully we wont have to share ships with the Brits and the French...MR T's Haircutnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-3363479517221386152012-02-08T09:12:42.574-05:002012-02-08T09:12:42.574-05:00First time an LCS sinks during an unexpected storm...First time an LCS sinks during an unexpected storm (yes, weather is unexpected at times) the fleet will get a lot smaller when the Navy parks all the LCS while Congress howls to the wind...Byronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-4002995391897744172012-02-08T03:43:56.500-05:002012-02-08T03:43:56.500-05:00I prophesize 200 ship navy by 2020...
at least you...I prophesize 200 ship navy by 2020...<br />at least you are getting some new ships while AF has F-22 slashed when it actually started to drop its price per piece, and is in the limbo with cold war era fighters waiting for the F-35 to overcome its problems - and should it fail there is risk of having to emergency procure some new fighters from abroad (RAF 1940 style...)ewok40knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-91290257720309857262012-02-08T03:32:09.896-05:002012-02-08T03:32:09.896-05:00Admiral Greenert's predecessor? Who was that?
...Admiral Greenert's predecessor? Who was that?<br /><br />(scratch)<br /><br />(scratch scratch)<br /><br />.......<br /><br />(*!)<br /><br /><br />Ow!OutlawMikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-56956073763115813092012-02-08T00:19:05.152-05:002012-02-08T00:19:05.152-05:00Since water is lint, we'll have the Threadbare...Since water is lint, we'll have the Threadbare 30's.<br /><br />Can we all tap our heels together and say, "500 in the 50's...NIFTY!" Too much to ask, I guess.<br /><br />Dayum.Snowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-61458420098141021982012-02-07T23:02:30.552-05:002012-02-07T23:02:30.552-05:00Better hope that INSURV is on their game and that ...Better hope that INSURV is on their game and that COs don't get canned for speaking up when their ships are broken. Past time to get serious about training the sailors to do preventive maintenance and repairs. We had the systems and infrastructure in place in the early 90s and systematically dismantled it. Time to dust off those old tech manuals, 3M binders, roll up the sleeves and start turning to.Old Farternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-21874401928109677132012-02-07T22:43:41.526-05:002012-02-07T22:43:41.526-05:00Forgot to add the subs.
Though i wonder if our fu...Forgot to add the subs.<br /><br />Though i wonder if our future subs will have such defined roles as SSBN,SSGN,SSN.<br /><br />There is a push to extend the virginia hull form and place in a extended magazing for either SLBM or Tomahawks. So maybe our subs are going to become more like DDG'S in some ways.Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-89247322759450513552012-02-07T22:35:01.691-05:002012-02-07T22:35:01.691-05:00I've wondered if it might be better for the US...I've wondered if it might be better for the US to invest in 75-80 or so Absolon class vessels Or a american version there of. This would distribute the firepower of the fleet out over a larger area and give us more platforms to do ALL the odd and in jobs that the navy needs.<br />Then dedicated Anti-missile captial ships like the DDG-51's and the Tico's then the rest is taken up by the amphibs, carriers, etc.........maybe 12 or so heavy dedicated NGFS ships to use as the battering ram from hell for amphibious ops and such.Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-92113485201848677642012-02-07T22:31:49.378-05:002012-02-07T22:31:49.378-05:00If Obama gets a second term, put me down in the de...If Obama gets a second term, put me down in the despair pool at 225.<br /><br />Only idiots would continue to build LCS for any reason. Waste of money, with phoney capabilities attributed to them that make them basically meaningless in counting fleet strength. I guess you can count them as hulls, but it is delusional to count them as warships.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7704146.post-74877932302656254662012-02-07T19:34:42.602-05:002012-02-07T19:34:42.602-05:00When we all come back from CENTCOM and hang up our...When we all come back from CENTCOM and hang up our DCUs for the last time, we'd like to know there will be a fleet for us to return to and a mission we can all believe in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com