Friday, March 26, 2010

Fullbore Friday

What is all the sacrifice, valour, history and remembrance on FbF for if small people destroy great things in pursuit of their own narcissistic and abusive politics and teaching habits?

How much do you really know what is happening to your children in school, especially when it comes to history?

History and Parents; the cornerstones of a free society.

If you do not understand the context - you don't know the meaning. If you don't know the meaning of something - it is nothing.
When something is nothing - you can do anything to it you want.

When parents are passive about what their children are being taught - everything that has meaning can be used for anything.

Throw in bias and ignorance with malice in a teacher - what your children are fed will shock you.

Just ask the students at Langley HS. What to know what they are being shown to explain why Americans fight and die overseas?

Well, this FbF - look at the other side of the coin.


UPDATE: More from A Soldier's Perspective.

39 comments:

Desert Sailor said...

YGTBSM!! 

I clicked through their site a wee bit but nothing leaped out at me...is this photo-shop nighmare posted someplace in there?

Me thinks I'd be standing upon the sup's desk with prinicpal in one hand and teacher in the other!

revisionist buncha jack@$$es!!!

Anonymous said...

One of their teachers uses it.

LT B said...

My guess is that teacher has never served.  Putz! 

ewok40k said...

Would someone explain to that idiot that at the time of Iwo Jima there was no Big Mac yet?

Grumpy Old Ham said...

That is doubly shameful, considering who the parents of a significant proportion of the student body there are.

OTOH, maybe it's not so surprising after all...(faceplant)

surfcaster said...

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed so I assume we're talking about a clueless (or malicious?) teacher defacing the flag raising at Iow Jima, in order to promote the obvious commercialimperialism motives for Amerika during WWII. Someone help me, need more info, linkage, content, can you feed a brother with smartness.

MR T's Haircut said...

Disgraceful!

Probably lesson approved by Tom Hanks... they are gonna have to watch Pacific next...

Losers

cdrsalamander said...

You got 90% of it.  Just don't limit it to WWII.

surfcaster said...

I was bordering on snarkiness. Its exposure (OK, lack of) and environment that put most of these people out of reality and its tearing our country apart. And for young impressionable HS/Colledge age males it is usually in the pursuit of the female that drops the intelligence firewall and gets hacked in return. I might phrase it another way, but family freindly and all...

Pi$$es me off. Mortimer Duke was wrong, it is environment that eff people up or down.

/rant

surfcaster said...

Off topic. What's up with Pacific? Not bad but Band of Brothers it isn't. So far seems too romanticized??

JimmyMac said...

I find this as distrubing, disgraceful, and offensive as most of you who frequent this blog but please, have some perspective.  I went to high school in a large city in the 60's.  Most of you probably didn't get the chance to study that era yet as it is not that far back...  However, I can tell you this pales in comparison to what we were experiencing then - riots, Viet Nam "unrest", racial divisions.  And look, our society made it through those "dark days".  Yep, Americans are a resilient bunch!

Heather said...

....which is why we homeschool.

You'd actually be surprised how hard it is to find curricula that is pro-America.

Now, I'm not raising my boys to think that *everything* that *every* explorer/colonist/soldier/or government official ever did was 100% virtuous, but for goodness sakes! Let's try for some intellectual honesty!

We study history chronologically in a four year cycle. So, first year is Ancients, second year is Medieval / Renaissance, third year is Early Modern, fourth year is modern history. Repeat.

Last year we studied early modern, which covers, approximately, the years 1600-1850. Do you realize almost every modern book ( ~90%) about the explorers and early colonists is from the perspective that "white people came to kill Indians and steal their gold"? Or, if you gt one of the few conservative books being published (~ 10%), it is from the perspective that *every* colonist and founder was a Christian that wanted to set up a Christian theocracy where America was/is the New Israel.

I finally had to start looking for books published prior to 1960 to find books that were free of either bias.

This year we're studying modern history, which is 1850-present. Oy vey! We covered Vietnam last week. This week we got to study about how the wonderful Jimmy Carter brought together Israel and Egypt. Sigh.

Anyone know of any child-friendly, pro America resources for events from 1980 to the present? Or at least books that are not America/Reagan/George W. Bush is the devil?

DeltaBravo said...

Funny thing is... I can tell a book's slant by immediately opening to see what they say about FDR and then turn to the Ronald Reagan page.

Depending on the courseload and year level, you may want to look at high school history books in use in the Round Rock Independent School District in Texas.

DeltaBravo said...

I LOVE YOU GOH!  Ding ding ding!  WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!  He knows exactly what kind of children go to that school!  (Note for you non-Virginia types, it's a very expensive and elite area with million+ dollar homes and parents who have reached the pinnacle of power in many areas.)

DeltaBravo said...

We were fighting al-Qaeda on Mt. Suribachi?  I'm confused.  ;)

SCOTTtheBADGER said...

Gotta kill 'em where they find 'em Delta. They thought that by going back in time, and hiding amongst the Imperial Japanese Army, that they would outfox us.

Byron said...

Ok, color me clueless, but which part of that page did this show up in?

Spade said...

<span>Not shocked. </span>
<span> </span>
<span>Of course, I was a college TA for a year at one of the Virginia colleges. The VA public school system was very good at sending us kids who could barely read. And couldn't write a coherent sentence let alone a paragraph or research paper. </span>
<span></span>
<span>Good job VA public schools.</span>

XBradTC said...

From the blurb at ASP, this came after a discussion of how the war impacted attitudes of blacks and women.

Really? The student body has a sufficient grasp of the geopolitical causes and shifts caused by the war that they have time to devote to the sociological minutia??

AW1 Tim said...

I am home-schooling my youngest. She's a wicked smart 11 year old anyway, but I can't stomach the way things have been distorted in our schools. Add to that the politicization of the teachers, and the sycophamts in the PTA, and it's too much.

DeltaBravo said...

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/travelblogs/38/403/McArabia:+McDonald%E2%80%99s+in+the+Arab+World?destId=361106

For a more intelligent discussion of McDonald's around the world than that teacher seems to be able to do, this blog is interesting.  Be sure to read the selections from several places.  I wonder if the sneering leftist teacher has ever left the US and travelled to understand what a place like this means overseas to the tourists, homesick Americans and the locals. 

LT B said...

Nice Trading Places reference. 

C-dore 14 said...

surf, Agree it's not as good as "Band of Brothers" and seems pretty tame so far.  However, it has been fairly faithful to the Sledge and Leckie books on which the screenplay was based.  I'll get back to you after the Peleliu episodes regarding whether it's too romanticized or not.

C-dore 14 said...

Heather, the progression of your course work is similar to that I encountered during high school.  Of course that was about 45 years ago.

C-dore 14 said...

It's unfortunate that these kids don't have the opportunity to be exposed to the high school faculty that taught me.  The history teacher who parachuted into Normandy on D-Day, the geometry and English teachers who flew B-17s over Germany, the ROTC MSgt who received a Silver Star and CIB as a sniper in the Philippines, the Korean War veterans.  They came away from their wartime experiences with viewpoints that ranged from nationalistic to anti-war and we as students were exposed to both points of view.  Of course that was a different era but it was one in which a variety of perspectives on the role of this country in world were presented to us so that we could develop our own political outlook as we matured.  It's not the fact that there's a moron like this guy influencing his students that bothers me as much as the lack of a countervailing opinion.

C-dore 14 said...

DS, It's not as bad as the editorial cartoon that one of the Seattle papers ran a few years back (on Memorial Day no less) that showed the flag raisers pushing up an oil derrick.  You'll be glad to hear that the paper has since gone out of business as anything but a website.

Heather said...

Thanks. Off to Google it...

Heather said...

I definitely wasn't taught this way; I graduated high-school in 1993. :-D

From what I remember of my school days, we haphazardly covered our community, Mummies, our state, Abraham Lincoln, the Pilgrims, Martin Luther King, Jr., and.... oh, yeah. Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin. (That last one, seriously, is the only fact I remember being taught in 10th grade high school history! LOL!)

It certainly makes sense, though. I wish I had been taught this way.

ewok40k said...

In my old bad communist high school days we went for Ancient (until 476) -Medieval-(until 1492)- Early Modern (until 1795 - 3rd Partition of Poland, but that would be the time of both US Independence War and French Revolution)- Industrial Modern  (until 1945). Everything after 1945 was considered political sciences. Of course books were anointed with Marxist rhetoric, but otherwise quite sound knowledge was passed, and everybody knew who really has been doing the shootings in Katyn - it was just silently acknowledged nobody would mention it to not rise troubles for our teacher. Nobody actually tried to force "interpretation" of the history, teachers were too busy forcing the knowledge of what actually happened - and when - into our teenage heads.

ewok40k said...

maybe it then they picked up the habit of blowing themselves up? ;)

C-dore 14 said...

Ewok, The first time I visited Albania in '93 we toured their national military academy.  During the tour we were given a briefing in a room filled with empty bookcases.  It turned out this had been the library and the government had decided to remove the books because all of them, even the technical ones, were loaded with Marxist philosophy and rhetoric.

Andrewdb said...

Brad - I am reminded of the joke about how different news outlets would handle nuclear war: The NYT would, of course, look at how women and minorities are hurt most;  The WSJ would analyze the effect on commodity prices.

Old NFO said...

Gotta love the great Texas schoolbook imbroglio.  For decades the far left has controlled what goes into kids textbooks but now they're screaming bloody murder because patriotic Americans have taken over the state school board.  

Several years ago one of the kids at church showed me his American History book.  No disrespect to ML King, but when he gets more space then all the founding fathers combined there's something wrong.  When the internment of Japanese Americans rates higher than Pearl Harbor, the Bataan Death March, the Rape of Nanking and the Nazi death camps I begin to see a pattern.  When the Iroquois Confederacy is credited with inspiring the US Constitution I think they have gone over a PC cliff.  

C-dore 14 said...

Because of our frequent move in conjunction with PCS orders, our eldest daughter studied American history in California, Virginia, and Rhode Island.  She learned about the "Mission Trail", Jamestown, and Plymouth Rock in addition to getting two extremely different perspectives on the Civil War/War Between the States.

Your comment about textbooks is on target, one of the reasons why we always monitored their assignments and made sure our girls understood that there was more to history than just what was in their textbooks.  Fortunately, they both grew up to be good, informed citizens although their political views differ from one another.

Grumpy Old Ham said...

Thank you (blushes).  Actually, I was specifically thinking of a certain intelligence agency in the vicinity but you are correct about the overall demographic makeup of the area.

DeltaBravo said...

Yeah, the folks at Langley probably filled that high school...

ewok40k said...

Well, here it was less forced, there was usual nod to the powers that be,  imagine that in a foreign books shelf of my city library I've found no less than Edward Luttwak's "Grand strategy of the Soviet Union". Was major eye-opener for me as I saw first time the real gargantuan size of Soviet military.

cdrsalamander said...

Me?  WWII 8th AF B-17 pilot - and Vietnam infantry Company Commander.

UltimaRatioRegis said...

Next thing you know they will be teaching the History of the Norman Conquest...